Flying without CHL (ccw) possible? Texas
This is a discussion on Flying without CHL (ccw) possible? Texas within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by ak56
They've apparently changed that. Sounds like you can use TSA locks or non-TSA locks. I was researching this yesterday, as I'm ...
May 12th, 2010 11:07 AM
TSA has NOT changed their wording. reread it:
Originally Posted by ak56
American Airlines is the only airline I know of that has changed their wording. TSA screeners don't follow American Airlines policies, they follow TSA rules, which have NOT changed, at least not in the last 3 minutes when i checked.
The container must be locked. A locked container is defined as one that completely secures the firearm from access by anyone other than you.
Cases that can be pulled open with little effort do not meet this criterion. The pictures provided here illustrate the difference between a properly packaged and an improperly packaged firearm.
TSA screeners could theretically deny you boarding because your firearm case does not comply with TSA regs
Of course you can do this in any manner you choose. I would continue to secure my pistol case as per the TSA regs, not American Airlines
May 12th, 2010 12:06 PM
Thanks for the correction about the locks, guys. Like I said, I have not flown with firearms since TSA came into being, and I hope to never have to do so. I have no plans to try to memorize any of their silly regs, except to the extent that I am forced to do so if I ever have to fly commercial again.
May 12th, 2010 12:21 PM
I stand corrected. I missed the 'by anyone other than you' part. I thought the wording used to be clearer.
Originally Posted by swinokur
Personally, I wouldn't have used a TSA-approved lock anyway.
May 12th, 2010 04:50 PM
I've flown about a dozen times with firearms in the last 2-3 years...use YOUR locks on the container with the gun. NOT TSA locks...
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May 12th, 2010 05:00 PM
Check out this article, it'll tell you everything you need to know.
8541 Tactical - Flying with Firearms
As others have said, having a CHL has nothing to do with it.
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May 12th, 2010 06:23 PM
A good link but I question this statement:
>> TSA regulations allow you to carry your ammunition loaded into magazines as long as the magazines are stored in magazine pouches
Maybe that has changed but to be safe just use the boxes the ammo comes in. It used to be that loaded mags were a serious no-no. I blew it once and forgot a loaded mag in the box with a gun. Almost didn't get on the plane.
May 12th, 2010 06:37 PM
From the TSA web site
Originally Posted by theneko
Having said that, TSA may be ok with this, but some airline agents are either not ok with it or don't know the regs. Either way, since you deal with them first when checking in, I would not try loaded mags under any circumstances. If you leave mags loaded and the agent says no and you have no ammo boxes for them, the ammo doesn't fly with you. Not worth the hassle IMO.
You can't use firearm magazines/clips for packing ammunition unless they completely and securely enclose the ammunition (e.g., by securely covering the exposed portions of the magazine or by securely placing the magazine in a pouch, holder, holster or lanyard
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