Staying overnight in NJ??

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    Staying overnight in NJ??

    A good friend of mine is traveling from NC to NH. He has permits to cover him everywhere he is stopping except NJ. He asked me if it was anyway to be legal while spending the night in NJ? I told him that I didn't think so but would ask you folks. He has no choice for staying over night in NJ.
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    As long as the gun remains locked in the trunk and separated from ammunition, he should be OK. Federal law allows for travel between places where one is legal. I.e., if you're legal at both your origin and your final destination, you're legal in between as long as the firearm is not readily accessible to you.
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    Tell him to lock his gun in a COM Safe, and do not have any mags that hold more than 10 rounds (anything more is illegal in NJ).
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    He should plan to either stay in PA or DE....given the laws of NJ. The peaceable journey law will NOT cover him as it can be argued (successfully) that NJ is a destination....NOT a temporary stop.

    IMO, staying overnight in some place that basically prohibits one from exercising self-defense with a firearm (much less, owning a firearm) is not a good place to be.
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    I checked my DeLorme trip planner and unless he has a reason to go to NJ it is quite easy to avoid NJ. Take US 209 which skirts the state border just in PA and never have to go into NJ.

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    NJ is 15 rounds, not 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    NJ is 15 rounds, not 10.
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    Federal Law does protect travel through a state, (locked/separated) but you might want to double check whether that law covers an overnight stay or not.
    I've heard that it does. And I've heard that it doesn't.
    For example, if your car is stolen from your hotel, what legal ramifications will you face when NJ LE find out that there was an out-of-state firearm in the trunk.
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    Thanks guys......as for going around NJ, he has a stop over in NJ that he MUST make. No choice on that. I knew he could go "through" the state as long as it is locked in seperate boxes from the ammo but my concern was his stay over for a night. You know it's pretty blame sad you have to be so concerned about an issue like this in a state that has proven that their "gun laws" are NOT working so good.
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    As others have said the peaceable journey law does not allow for friendly stops never mind overnight.

    A few years ago, lawsuit still pending, a gentleman legally flying from one state to another had a flight change in NJ. There were problems, the flight cancelled, and the airline arranged for a room and sent him his luggage containing his legally declared handgun.

    He was arrested and jailed for 4 days before he could be released for having a handgun in NJ. In jail he was subjected to many unpleasant activities. Sure you want to take a chance?
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    By the way......I know it doesn't make any difference but he will be traveling in a motorhome during his stay over in NJ.
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    Motor homes in driving condition are vehicles.

    They are not entitled to the same 4th amendment protection as real estate grounded to the land, nor the same protections as motor homes in "grounded" condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellCT View Post
    Motor homes in driving condition are vehicles.

    They are not entitled to the same 4th amendment protection as real estate grounded to the land, nor the same protections as motor homes in "grounded" condition.
    Right and that's pretty much what I told him. Just got off the phone with him and I suggested that he may want to overnight his gun to his final stop in New Hampshire to be on the safe side. He will be in TN for about a week before he heads to NJ then NH. I told him to ship it ahead before he leaves TN. He'll be without for about 4 days. That stinks but may be worth it.
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    Do not spend the night in NJ, you are only legal traveling through that state.
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