VA, TN, NC, SC, GA Signage ?

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    VA, TN, NC, SC, GA Signage ?

    I know the basic rule...if you are asked to leave, you must or it could be a trespassing charge... but here is the question:

    Out of these states, VA, TN, NC, SC, GA,....

    1. Which ones have certain "specifications" for no firearms signs? (certain size, circle with slash, located in certain spot) etc.?

    2. Of these states, which, if any, "must" be observed? or can you CC and walk right past the sign (until asked to leave). Basically trying to find out which states, you "must" obey sign and not enter or it is violation.?

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    In SC they have to be on every door even on back doors to hold any legal weight. Assuming all the signs are up to spec.

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    In Va. it's "asked to leave or trespassing".

    Here's some info. Virginia State Police - Firearms/Concealed Weapons

    Va. outlines places that it is illegal to carry. Courthouses, Fed Buildings, Post Offices, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhail View Post
    In SC they have to be on every door even on back doors to hold any legal weight. Assuming all the signs are up to spec.
    This is right on concerning SC but you can also go to the SLED web site and get the legal sizes, etc.. I have seen a number of No Carry signs at banks but are not the legal size so they do not carry any weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REVMAN View Post
    This is right on concerning SC but you can also go to the SLED web site and get the legal sizes, etc.. I have seen a number of No Carry signs at banks but are not the legal size so they do not carry any weight.
    Thanks I found it. SECTION 23-31-235

    SECTION 23-31-235. Sign requirements.

    (A) Notwithstanding any other provision of this article, any requirement of or allowance for the posting of signs prohibiting the carrying of a concealable weapon upon any premises shall only be satisfied by a sign expressing the prohibition in both written language interdict and universal sign language.

    (B) All signs must be posted at each entrance into a building where a concealable weapon permit holder is prohibited from carrying a concealable weapon and must be:

    (1) clearly visible from outside the building;

    (2) eight inches wide by twelve inches tall in size;

    (3) contain the words “NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED” in black one inch tall uppercase type at the bottom of the sign and centered between the lateral edges of the sign;

    (4) contain a black silhouette of a handgun inside a circle seven inches in diameter with a diagonal line that runs from the lower left to the upper right at a forty five degree angle from the horizontal;

    (5) a diameter of a circle; and

    (6) placed not less than forty inches and not more than sixty inches from the bottom of the building’s entrance door.

    (C) If the premises where concealable weapons are prohibited does not have doors, then the signs contained in subsection (A) must be:

    (1) thirty six inches wide by forty eight inches tall in size;

    (2) contain the words “NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED” in black three inch tall uppercase type at the bottom of the sign and centered between the lateral edges of the sign;

    (3) contain a black silhouette of a handgun inside a circle thirty four inches in diameter with a diagonal line that is two inches wide and runs from the lower left to the upper right at a forty five degree angle from the horizontal and must be a diameter of a circle whose circumference is two inches wide;

    (4) placed not less than forty inches and not more than ninety six inches above the ground;

    (5) posted in sufficient quantities to be clearly visible from any point of entry onto the premises.
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    In SC, legal signs carry the weight of the law. However, the INTENT of the signage may be considered by the investigating LEO. There's also the "We reserve the right to refuse service..." and the subsequent trespass charge it can carry.

    Bottom line - If you CC properly, no one will know. If you ARE made and asked to leave, do so quietly and don't argue or resist. You won't win. "Sorry, sir, I didn't see your sign. I'll be leaving and also leaving my purchases behind."

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    Right. Now for GA, NC, and TN.
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    I found Georgia's information.

    GeorgiaPacking.org's Places Where Firearm Carry is Not Off-Limits

    A "No Firearms" sign on a private business does not mean anything. If your firearm is noticed, they simply ask you to leave. If the police arrive and you still refuse to leave you can be charged with criminal trespass. You keep your permit even if convicted.

    However, some "public gatherings" (and any of the areas off-limits) such as a county hospital or the post office may have signs posted to inform you they are off-limits. You probably will lose your permit for several years if convicted.

    So, just because you see a sign does not mean it is or isn't off-limits and just because you don't see a sign does not mean it is or isn't off-limits.
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    VA--signs do not hold legal weight...OC is legal and practiced (no permit required)

    Like others will probably post 27 times--if asked to leave...leave
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    I believe NC is the same, "if asked to leave.. do so or it's trespassing" but I can't find anything to back it up.
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    In NC signs must be obeyed, they have no specific design requirements so all are effective and the only stipulation is that they be "conspicuous".

    The signs count as a warning so if you are found to be carrying you can be arrested without being asked to leave by the proprietors or employees.

    To make it simple, don't carry where there are signs in NC.

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    What he just said about NC. If you are caught inside posted property the charge is carrying concealed weapon which means you loose your privledge to carry forever in NC. So, don't take it lightly.
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    This morning, Tennessee's posting requirement is very specific and requires a mention of the statute and the fine. However, literally this afternoon the law may change to make the Circle/Slash have legal weight. It still would have to be on each entrance normally used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Bullseye View Post
    In NC signs must be obeyed, they have no specific design requirements so all are effective and the only stipulation is that they be "conspicuous".

    The signs count as a warning so if you are found to be carrying you can be arrested without being asked to leave by the proprietors or employees.

    To make it simple, don't carry where there are signs in NC.

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    In TN signs must be obeyed if they follow the general wording, size and display characteristics per the TN state AG's opinion.
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