This is a discussion on Pulled Over While carrying By J. Peters within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I'm not getting in the debate this time. I really liked point 6 because I think it's 100% true never tell a cop "I have ...
I'm not getting in the debate this time.
I really liked point 6 because I think it's 100% true never tell a cop "I have a gun"
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I'm not getting in the debate this time.
You scared or what?
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Wow Treo, I am surprised you posted this with how strongly you dislike informing. It is a well written article for sure.
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No, but (IMO) for me to post this article and then argue against one of his points would be stirring the pot
It's a well written article that I have one disagreement W/ it would be intelectually dishonest of me not to post it.Originally posted by MinistrMalic Wow Treo, I am surprised you posted this with how strongly you dislike informing. It is a well written article for sure.
Good post, I personally have no problem with informing a officer that I'm carrying. They have hard job to do, I try to make it as easy as possible.
Good common sense advice as I have stated before why make a molehill into a mountain. We are not commiting any crime by carrying legally concealed and Treo good post thanks for sharing.
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Nice right up, thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for sharing. As a former LEO I have mixed views on disclosure so for me, it would depend on the condition or reason I was contacted. It doesn’t take but a few seconds to determine if the LEO is a decent person, or just another jerk with a chip on his/her shoulder.
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~ Stephen King
Officer Peters needs to be teaching classes to other officers, and his advice to licensees is virtually identical to what I tell my cHL students. Here in TX, we recently did away with the penalty for not showing a CHL during a traffic stop, since it was silly, in light of having legalized vehicular carry for non-licensees. However, there is still an "unpenalized mandate" to display the permit in the CHL statute. Since I don't speed much anymore, I don't get stopped much.
The few times I have been stopped since I got a CHL have been utterly uneventful. One DPS Trooper asked me if I was actually carrying, and where, and that was it. Two troopers didn't even ask, and only smiled. A Lubbock city cop asked where I was carrying, then proceeded to brag endlessly about his cool, new laser radar and how well it works. I had to explain that while his laer was all quite interesting, I needed to get to work, which was why I was speeding anyway! A small-town cop was the last to stop me, when I was on the way to a hearing, and said, "You don't actually have any weapons in your vehicle, do you?" (Range session the day before-I think I had 15-17 guns in the pickup.) I said, "Yes, right here on my hip, but I promise not to carry it into the courthouse." He let me off with a warning, as have most of the others. However, I do hear the occasional, unfortunate story about anal orifice officers who unnecessarily harass CHL-holders.
What Officer Peters did not mention was that good officers who live through long careers should, and usually do, assume that everyone they stop is armed.