Do you have to Conceal at home? (FL)

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    its up to the owner of the guns whether they choose to be quiet or open about their guns...there are advantages both ways...when people see youre normal and have a gun hobby they become interested and you get the opportunity to introduce them to the sport....an ambassador of sorts...

    in florida you are allowed to open carry anywhere on your property...while cutting the lawn...etc....the grey area is right of ways....the swale out front...crossing a sidewalk...etc....you can answer the door with a holstered firearm if you choose....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulf Girl View Post
    For example, if a neighbor came to my door and I have my gun in holster on and they comment "you can't carry openly you have to conceal". Am I within my legal right inside my home to openly carry on my body?

    Show them this Gulf Girl:

    Taken directly from Florida Online Statutes (Online Sunshine)
    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/...EChapter%20790

    790.25 Lawful ownership, possession, and use of firearms and other weapons.--

    (1) DECLARATION OF POLICY.--The Legislature finds as a matter of public policy and fact that it is necessary to promote firearms safety and to curb and prevent the use of firearms and other weapons in crime and by incompetent persons without prohibiting the lawful use in defense of life, home, and property, and the use by United States or state military organizations, and as otherwise now authorized by law, including the right to use and own firearms for target practice and marksmanship on target practice ranges or other lawful places, and lawful hunting and other lawful purposes.

    (2) USES NOT AUTHORIZED.--

    (a) This section does not authorize carrying a concealed weapon without a permit, as prohibited by ss. 790.01 and 790.02.

    (b) The protections of this section do not apply to the following:

    1. A person who has been adjudged mentally incompetent, who is addicted to the use of narcotics or any similar drug, or who is a habitual or chronic alcoholic, or a person using weapons or firearms in violation of ss. 790.07-790.115, 790.145-790.19, 790.22-790.24;

    2. Vagrants and other undesirable persons as defined in 1s. 856.02;

    3. A person in or about a place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05, unless such person is there for law enforcement or some other lawful purpose.

    (3) LAWFUL USES.--The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes:

    (a) Members of the Militia, National Guard, Florida State Defense Force, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, organized reserves, and other armed forces of the state and of the United States, when on duty, when training or preparing themselves for military duty, or while subject to recall or mobilization;

    (b) Citizens of this state subject to duty in the Armed Forces under s. 2, Art. X of the State Constitution, under chapters 250 and 251, and under federal laws, when on duty or when training or preparing themselves for military duty;

    (c) Persons carrying out or training for emergency management duties under chapter 252;

    (d) Sheriffs, marshals, prison or jail wardens, police officers, Florida highway patrol officers, game wardens, revenue officers, forest officials, special officers appointed under the provisions of chapter 354, and other peace and law enforcement officers and their deputies and assistants and full-time paid peace officers of other states and of the Federal Government who are carrying out official duties while in this state;

    (e) Officers or employees of the state or United States duly authorized to carry a concealed weapon;

    (f) Guards or messengers of common carriers, express companies, armored car carriers, mail carriers, banks, and other financial institutions, while actually employed in and about the shipment, transportation, or delivery of any money, treasure, bullion, bonds, or other thing of value within this state;

    (g) Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state, or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for target, skeet, or trap shooting, while at or going to or from shooting practice; or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for modern or antique firearms collecting, while such members are at or going to or from their collectors' gun shows, conventions, or exhibits;

    (h) A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition;

    (i) A person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person while engaged in the lawful course of such business;

    (j) A person firing weapons for testing or target practice under safe conditions and in a safe place not prohibited by law or going to or from such place;

    (k) A person firing weapons in a safe and secure indoor range for testing and target practice;

    (l) A person traveling by private conveyance when the weapon is securely encased or in a public conveyance when the weapon is securely encased and not in the person's manual possession;

    (m) A person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a secure wrapper, concealed or otherwise, from the place of purchase to his or her home or place of business or to a place of repair or back to his or her home or place of business;

    (n) A person possessing arms at his or her home or place of business;
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    Here in Texas, we can carry however we like in our home, on our property or at our business. I'm not one to open carry and Texas is not an open carry state, but around the house or in my yard, I make no effort to conceal unless someone is stopping by, but that depends on who.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    It's your house....do what you want. Anyone who complains (by looking through your window) should be charged with being a Peeping Tom!
    Tell that to the guy who was brought up on charges of pedophilia for walking past his window to his bedroom without shorts on while a woman was walking her kid to school and just happen to look in his window.

    He went through a tough time defending his rights on HIS property over that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulf Girl View Post
    I live in FL and my question is.... do I have to conceal when I'm wearing a gun at home? I assume if I'm out mowing my lawn in view of my neighbors that I must conceal.... but what about inside my home? Do I have to conceal if I'm inside my home and wearing a gun in a holster on my body?

    My windows are open so technically someone might see me carrying through a window..... or if a neighbor comes to my door and I open it they would see me carrying. I like to wear shorts and tank tops while at home (FL heat you know) so I'd rather not worry about having to cover up my firearm while inside my house if I don't have to.

    I apologize if this is a stupid or repeated question... I'm new to concealed carry and forgot to ask this question in my class and couldn't find specific information on it on-line.
    Generally speaking...you can openly carry on your property,,in your home, or wherever about your property including your cattle fields if you so choose so long as they are your property. You should be able to mow your yard openly carrying a pistol in most places. That is until someone takes offense about your so called actions. If you are not threatening anyone, then so be it. But we all know too well those onlookers that might take offense and call you in to the local gendarmes while they'll send their kids down your lonely dirt road to set off fireworks on the 4th of July since they are not allowed in city limits and disturb your peace. Go figure. Anyway...your property is your domain. Whether or not you get harassed for asserting your rights and privileges is another story. I've answered he door many times to the local college magazine subscription sellers....the Mormons......the Jehovah's witnesses.....and the like of door knockers with my carry out in the open tucked in appendix right in front...sort of blatantly as though to say 'you're disturbing me at home during my relaxation time'. That usually cuts the would be conversation short, or it gets a few second pause before they start in with their mantra. All the same....I'm in my domain, and I have a right to do as I so choose so long as it does not impinge on others' rights. I could answer the door naked if I so choose and there won't be any charges pending. Knock on my door, and you get what you get so be prepared. Home is home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
    its up to the owner of the guns whether they choose to be quiet or open about their guns...there are advantages both ways...when people see youre normal and have a gun hobby they become interested and you get the opportunity to introduce them to the sport....an ambassador of sorts...

    in florida you are allowed to open carry anywhere on your property...while cutting the lawn...etc....the grey area is right of ways....the swale out front...crossing a sidewalk...etc....you can answer the door with a holstered firearm if you choose....
    As it should be. The same applies to Minnesota, with the exception that we have got a "permit to carry,' which allows both the OC and CC.

    Naturally, you don't need a permit to cut your lawn while OCing in MN.

    Oh, I never answer the door. With friends we make prior arrangements, and with strangers ... get the h&ll off my property. The delivery guys know and agree with our system and I tip them graciously every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrdredd View Post
    Tell that to the guy who was brought up on charges of pedophilia for walking past his window to his bedroom without shorts on while a woman was walking her kid to school and just happen to look in his window.

    He went through a tough time defending his rights on HIS property over that one.
    And I believe he was found not guilty--he should not have been charged in the first place. IMO, he should seek reparation for invasion of privacy and wrongful prosecution.
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    I answer my door all the time with a gun..granted its not in a holster but in my right hand, I just put my right should behind the door so they can't see what's there. The neighbors we're friends with know what it is i'm holding and have no problem with it. Strangers with a brain take a second and then you see the light bulb click on above their heads...specially when I go to shake their hand i switch the gun from my right to my left behind my back. never had a problem with it yet.

    welcome to the site fellow Floridian

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEclipse View Post
    Gulf Girl,
    Welcome aboard from another Floridian.

    I suggest you go out and buy this book. It covers Florida gun laws and gun use including the exact question you asked. It's also written in plain English instead of legaleze, so it's an easy read.

    Florida Firearms -- Law, Use & Ownership BOOK FOR SALE by Author JON H. GUTMACHER, Esq.

    When my brother took his CC class the very first thing the instructor said was to go buy this book.
    I'll second on that book. I have a FL non-resident permit and got that book right after getting my permit. Also brought it with me when I spent a few months down there for work. I understand some folks have gone so far as to get an extra copy to keep in their cars!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEclipse View Post
    Gulf Girl,
    Welcome aboard from another Floridian.

    I suggest you go out and buy this book. It covers Florida gun laws and gun use including the exact question you asked. It's also written in plain English instead of legaleze, so it's an easy read.

    Florida Firearms -- Law, Use & Ownership BOOK FOR SALE by Author JON H. GUTMACHER, Esq.

    When my brother took his CC class the very first thing the instructor said was to go buy this book.
    Does anyone know when his next edition comes out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    And I believe he was found not guilty--he should not have been charged in the first place. IMO, he should seek reparation for invasion of privacy and wrongful prosecution.
    No doubt and I 100% agree. However, the system is flawed...severely. That's not without question.

    Honestly if it were me, I'd be as discreet as possible just so the one nosey nelly doesn't call the cops because she saw "a man with a gun inside the house!". That's all it will take, someone you never met thinking you're some type of prowler. Lets face it, the think that everyone with a gun is a bad person out to do wrong unless they have a badge. Uniform doesn't work, even military personel are thought to be "out to hurt innocent people" by certain sections of today's sad society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulf Girl View Post
    I live in FL and my question is.... do I have to conceal when I'm wearing a gun at home? I assume if I'm out mowing my lawn in view of my neighbors that I must conceal.... but what about inside my home? Do I have to conceal if I'm inside my home and wearing a gun in a holster on my body?

    My windows are open so technically someone might see me carrying through a window..... or if a neighbor comes to my door and I open it they would see me carrying. I like to wear shorts and tank tops while at home (FL heat you know) so I'd rather not worry about having to cover up my firearm while inside my house if I don't have to.

    I apologize if this is a stupid or repeated question... I'm new to concealed carry and forgot to ask this question in my class and couldn't find specific information on it on-line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02PSD4ME View Post
    Does anyone know when his next edition comes out?
    Judging from Amazons selection it looks like he releases a new revision every three years. The current book is dated 2009, so it may be a couple of years before there's a new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrdredd View Post
    Honestly if it were me, I'd be as discreet as possible just so the one nosey nelly doesn't call the cops because she saw "a man with a gun inside the house!". That's all it will take, someone you never met thinking you're some type of prowler.

    This ^^^^ is priceless! It assumes that the person carrying is a man and the busy body is a woman. Yes... it does.. read it again.

    For the record I (the one carrying) am a woman... the busy body neighbor is a man.

    Also worth noting... I'm never inside a neighbors house without an invite ... and I'm NEVER EVER in the busy body's house ;)

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    Inside your home, do as you wish. If your 'nosey-nelly' neighbor calls the police then that'll be turned around on him for being a doofus. What's he doing peeping in your window in the first place?

    I'm a father of four, grandpaw of one with number two arriving soon. Inside my home I do as I wish........and for the most part, I keep it concealed. There are so many neighborhood kids coming and going......my teenaged daughters are socialites-in-training I think......my walking around armed is something I'll just keep to myself......most of the time.

    Carry as you want in your home, be safe(!), and Welcome Aboard!
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