question for LEO's

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    question for LEO's

    Do any of you carry anything other than OC and firearm off duty, I know one LEO where i live who carries his Tazer off duty. My question is would a department allow you to carry any of the gear you were issued off duty, other than the obvious gun and ammo. If you are allowed to would you carry anything other than your gun and possibly OC. Also wondering if any of you wear kevlar off duty or for civilians do any of you feel a need to wear kevlar vests as part of your EDC
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    No way would I wear a vest of duty, and I just carry pistol and spare mag. When I'm off I'm off and I don't care to play cop on the weekends.
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    I imagine I could - but see no need to. I would be really suprised if any of my co workers carried OC off duty - sometimes a second gun, like a pocket gun (not me) and most of us carry a knife as well. Maybe... just maybe one of thes key chain OC doohikees.
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    We just had an off duty cop shot here in Atlanta. He was shot in the torso, and he was wearing his vest. I think he happened to see a robbery and tried to stop it.

    I'm thinking in some parts of town, a vest isn't a bad idea.
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    As Sixto implied, most guys get more than enough with regular and OT shifts, when off they just want to go about their business.

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    I carry two extra mags and small flashlight. I carry off-duty not because I want to play more cop, but for protection of me and my family. I know what happens when the cops are called when a violent crime is happening, by the time we arrived, we are usually cleaning up the bodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    No way would I wear a vest of duty, and I just carry pistol and spare mag. When I'm off I'm off and I don't care to play cop on the weekends.
    A cop who actually gets weekends off? You must be retiring soon.

    And Sgt Z is right, it takes time to call 911 it takes time to get the info to the squad car and it takes time to get from point A to point B; and that's before you factor in panicking people with no clue of their address, dispatch computer lockups, radio dead spots, traffic on the way to the call and the like; when something is over in 15seconds that time just isn't there, the cops can't be everywhere at once.

    I'm not an LEO but FWIW I have heard the requirement by departments as a matter of policy that if you carry a gun then you must carry a cell phone and handcuffs (for those times actually shooting isn't needed); and I've got to say for the average person a charged cell phone is a must, if something does happen it's that much sooner that you can start to get more people there to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canav844 View Post
    I'm not an LEO but FWIW I have heard the requirement by departments as a matter of policy that if you carry a gun then you must carry a cell phone and handcuffs (for those times actually shooting isn't needed) ; and I've got to say for the average person a charged cell phone is a must, if something does happen it's that much sooner that you can start to get more people there to help.
    Different depts have different policies, I don't know many that require much beyond your gun and ID/badge. Heck, plenty still don't require or even allow off duty carry.

    Handcuffs are a good idea, if you're involved in something you need a way to restrain the BG until the cavalry arrives (and, for the record, shot people get handcuffed, too). But they're inconvenient to carry, so IME most guys don't. That being said, I generally carry my gun and one or two reloads, a knife, and my phone. I carry cuffs some of the time and keep a flashlight in my console (if I'm not on me, cuffs are with the flashlight). I've never carried OC or worn a vest off duty, don't know anyone who has.
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    I always carry off duty (O/D), though I don't carry OC regularly O/D I do on occasion. I am required to carry cuffs O/D, as well as a gun, badge, phone, and a reload.

    I would never wear my vest O/D, that's only for the mall ninjas
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression civilians cant even have a vest in their posession, much less even buy one.
    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b1780 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression civilians cant even have a vest in their posession, much less even buy one.
    I know convicted felon's cannot own/wear any sort of body armor. I'm unsure about the average Joe. I dont see why they wouldnt be able to own a vest though.

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    I've never worn a vest off-duty. I do, from time to time, carry cuffs and/or OC. The longer I spend doing this job the less often I carry extra stuff off-duty. I always carry two guns and at least one reload for each. I'm really not interested in carrying anything more than that. I'd be willing to bet that of my coworkers who carry off-duty, I'm the only one that carries a BUG all the time.
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    Retired now, but when I was still working and off-duty, I carried my duty weapon, spare mag & Cuffs.

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    I carried cuffs every once in a while off duty (and every time I flew). I was prohibited from carrying my CSB and OC off duty.
    Quote Originally Posted by b1780 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression civilians cant even have a vest in their posession, much less even buy one.
    That depends on state law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agave View Post
    I was prohibited from carrying my CSB and OC off duty.
    What's CSB?

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