158 grain shooting high in snub

158 grain shooting high in snub

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    158 grain shooting high in snub

    Anyone exprience haeavier bullets shooting high from snub revolvers.
    I have a 642 and I have been shooting 125s in it since I bought it.
    If I do my job its point on at 20 yds.
    But I bought some blazer 158 lrn for messing around and break in and they shot high right
    and by high right I mean 10 inches!
    anyone experience this ?


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    I have experienced horrible accuracy from the aluminum cased Blazer 158gr LRN load before. I would try another 158gr brand before you worry too much about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    Anyone exprience haeavier bullets shooting high from snub revolvers.
    I have a 642 and I have been shooting 125s in it since I bought it.
    If I do my job its point on at 20 yds.
    But I bought some blazer 158 lrn for messing around and break in and they shot high right
    and by high right I mean 10 inches!
    anyone experience this ?
    As a rule of thumb, heavier bullets will shoot higher than lighter weight ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdub347 View Post
    As a rule of thumb, heavier bullets will shoot higher than lighter weight ones.
    ...because (other things being equal) there will be more recoil. Likewise, heavier loads (other things being equal) will shoot higher for the same reason.

    But 10" sounds too high to me. My scandium/titanium snubby shoots about 2" higher with .357's compared to .38non-plus-p, at 7 yards, and that's a LOT of additional recoil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    Anyone exprience haeavier bullets shooting high from snub revolvers.
    I have a 642 and I have been shooting 125s in it since I bought it.
    If I do my job its point on at 20 yds.
    But I bought some blazer 158 lrn for messing around and break in and they shot high right
    and by high right I mean 10 inches!
    anyone experience this ?
    How do they shoot a seven yards?

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    As a rule of thumb, heavier bullets will shoot higher than lighter weight ones.
    ...because (other things being equal) there will be more recoil.
    I always thought heavier bullets were slower, therefore less recoil. I know my SD loads at 130gr shoot snappier than target 158s.

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    Far as height of different weights : dunno

    The OP could also be pulling the trigger in a different way with the 158s - and trying different brand is always a good idea.

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    It takes more pressure to push a hevier bullet ; )
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamlet View Post
    I always thought heavier bullets were slower, therefore less recoil. I know my SD loads at 130gr shoot snappier than target 158s.
    SD rounds are typically hotter than range ammo and would have more "snap."
    Heavier rounds shoot higher for a combo of reasons: More pressure to push the slug, slower speed aloowing the muzzle to rise more before the bullet exits, etc. 10 inches does sound a bit much.

    If a brand/weight of rounds group well, they are "accurate" regardless of whether they hit high, low, right, or left. Accuracy is in the repeatibility of the rounds, not where they group. That's where sight adjustment comes into play.
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    Time in barrel is longer for heavy slow when compared to light fast bullets. Recoil begins as soon as the bullet begins to move. More time in barrel equals more lift of the muzzle before the bullet exits, therefore higher POI. Lack of follow through allows significant lift to occur therefore 10 inch differential. The lighter the gun the more significant the difference.
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    even at 7 yards pretty high (7 inches maybe 10)

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    You could also get someone else to shoot it. -someone used to snubs (and that particular load even better) - Good way to tell if it's you or the gun/ammo.

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    10 inches at 7 yards would be WAY off at 20 yards. Triple the distance, triple the movement, so you are looking at approximately 28-30 inches off at 20 yards?

    Now I'm confused.
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    Is this because the more massive bullet takes longer to accelerate out of the barrel, allowing the barrel to recoil slightly higher and sending the bullet out the barrel at a higher point of aim?

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    I shoot 158 gr. for practice and 135 gr +P for carry. About the same POI.
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