New Job With "No Carry" Policy Poll
This is a discussion on New Job With "No Carry" Policy Poll within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Having followed several threads on peoples thoughts about working where concealed carry is not allowed by company policy, I have wondered what peoples responses would ...
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Sign the company policy and not carry as they wish.
Sign the company policy and carry anyway.
Sign the company policy and not carry but try to get it changed when you get the job.
June 10th, 2010 03:26 PM
New Job With "No Carry" Policy Poll
Having followed several threads on peoples thoughts about working where concealed carry is not allowed by company policy, I have wondered what peoples responses would be to this scenario.
You go to a second interview for a very interesting new job. They tell you that you are on the short list for the position and want you to fill out some paperwork.
You are given the company rules and asked to read and sign them. In the mix is the statement that no firearms are allowed on company property, buildings or grounds.
What do you do?
June 10th, 2010 03:26 PM
June 10th, 2010 03:30 PM
if it is a awesome paying job i woul leave my firearm home or take a chance and take it firearm and leave it in the car if i feel i am in fear for my life while leaving work.
June 10th, 2010 03:38 PM
I worked for a company that did not allow firearms, retired after 23 years. It was a good job, pay was excellent, and I enjoyed it. I did not carry a weapon while at work.
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June 10th, 2010 03:47 PM
In times like these, and especially if you're out of work, you take the job if it can feed your family and keep a roof over your head. If you feel naked (or nekkid as we say here in the south) not being armed, then I suggest - you take the job anyway and keep on looking.
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June 10th, 2010 03:53 PM
My preferred response wasn't there.
My job has a no-weapons policy just like you describe.
I don't carry at work, and have no wish to rock the boat trying to change it. It's a policy written by lawyers to protect the company from lawsuits. Period. They don't care what I think, and won't change the policy based on any activism from me. Plus, gun activism would make me someone of intense interest, and I don't need that kind of publicity.
I don't carry at work because I don't want to be found out and fired. The job pays me very well, and I have a VERY large insurance policy on my life here at this gig. If I get killed at the office, my wife becomes a millionaire. My kids are already out of the house with good careers and families. It's my personal risk management decision. I could get run over by some drunk without insurance, and that's probably MORE likely than me needing a loaded pistol on my person.
I need the job more than I need the gun on company property.
June 10th, 2010 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by MadMac
Same situation here, but my company's policy (I hope) doesn't preclude me from securing my gun in my car while I'm in the office.
June 10th, 2010 04:02 PM
To me it's an integrity issue. If I agree to the job under their conditions ( no carry at work) then I take the job under their conditions and I don't carry at work.
June 10th, 2010 04:04 PM
so many discreet ways to carry you could probably do it...
June 10th, 2010 04:33 PM
I would say most companies are this way. Keep it in your car - not at home. Most places, they can't say what you can or can't carry in your personal vehicle. Now, if it's a company car, that might be a different problem.
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June 10th, 2010 04:41 PM
If I would carry at work would depend upon the law, but if it's just company policy...then I might consider planning for SD in a number of ways.
I would NOT try to get the policy changed as this would only 'highlight' you on the company radar as someone to watch.
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June 10th, 2010 06:29 PM
I suppose that if you want the job, you gotta play by their rules.
It would depend greatly on the nature of the job, whether I would break the rule or not.
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June 10th, 2010 06:36 PM
I carry against company policy. I am a part time employee serving tables at a local restaraunt as I go to college. I can find minimum wage elsewhere if I get "made". I am not breaking any local or state laws. I did autograph a peice of paper saying I "understand all company policys and procedures". I do understand them, that dosent mean I follow them.
June 10th, 2010 07:07 PM
I abide by the company rules, and won't carry in their building. Florida law allows you to have it in your locked vehicle on company property. Must be locked. (Mine is locked and has a gun safe in addition)
In my last full time position, I had to look at this rule from both sides, as I wanted to CC, but I was the Asst. EH&S coordinator/safety/security guy. I suggested that IF the employee had a CWP, let him carry, but only if well concealed. They said NO!
They said this is a corporate rule from the home office and its cast in concrete. being I had the bad habit of wanting to eat, I stood down. Actually, my boss was with me on this so WE got struck down.
We both agreed we would not search employees cars, because Fl law allows it.
However, the concensis was if we responded to a night/weekend call of the alarm systen, we would have weapons, but well concealed.
This would be ammo for another poll:
How many of you are paranoid of NEEDING a gun at your place of work? I mean, is building security THAT bad? Or are you trying tro protect against another employee going postal?
When I was doing 2 way radio repair, I had to go into areas and sometimes at night, where a cop would not go unarmed. I carried with the permission of the owner. He simply said keep it concealed unless you are going to use it.
June 10th, 2010 07:23 PM
Where I work, the line from "The Hunt From Red October" by Sean Connery "Hey, Ryan, be careful what you shoot at. Most things in here don't react too well to bullets." is very appropriate. Since that is the case and it is against company policy to carry I don't mind complying. The State of MN has legislated that they can't prohibit a weapon in the car, even on company property so traveling to and from work is not a problem.
June 10th, 2010 07:40 PM
There's an old saying:
If you need "to work there for your family to be able to sit down to dinner" is far different than if you want "to work there for your family to be able sit down to dinner regularly in very nice restaurants or on your yacht" -- IMHO.
Where you sit determines where you stand.
OTOH, if "to work there may mean that your family may well sit down to dinner w/o you forever because of the danger" is a whole different set of values. (Those who put themselves in harms way as LEO, firefighters, military, etc are another whole different set of values.)
Only you can decide what is more important to you.
However, IMHO taking the job and violating the policy could risk everything to be gained by taking the job in the first place.
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I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.
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