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This is a discussion on Naive Sheep within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Majorlk That's a rather derogatory and uncalled for statement. Do you have something substantive to back it up? There first pastor and ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorlk View Post
    That's a rather derogatory and uncalled for statement. Do you have something substantive to back it up?
    There first pastor and founder, Ted Haggard was resigned after it was discovered that he used meth and on multiple occasions hired a male escorts. Another scandal fallowed up latter about less then consensual acts with a young man in the church. Below are two quick articles I quickly found.
    Haggard admits 'sexual immorality' - Life- msnbc.com
    Former Church Member: Haggard Performed Sex Act - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com


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    Geez could you maybe ask the Church security team for some stock market tips? Sounds like they may have a line to the Big Guy upstairs.
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    It cannot, however, be put back from where it came." --Quicksabre

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    Mable "Madea" Simmons: [imitating what bible says] Hold your peace, and let the Lord fight your battles. Hold your peace, and let the Lord fight your battles.
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    Mable "Madea" Simmons: Hold your "piece" and let the Lord fight your battles. [From the play:] Blessed are the piece makers Smith and Wesson
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexHassin View Post
    There first pastor and founder, Ted Haggard was resigned after it was discovered that he used meth and on multiple occasions hired a male escorts. Another scandal fallowed up latter about less then consensual acts with a young man in the church. Below are two quick articles I quickly found.
    Haggard admits 'sexual immorality' - Life- msnbc.com
    Former Church Member: Haggard Performed Sex Act - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

    Care to tell us how that relates to the topic at hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt58 View Post
    We are the Sheep Dogs.
    We are unappreciated until the Wolves come to devour the Sheep.
    You may now carry on with your absurd non-directional bantering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt58 View Post
    IWe are the Sheep Dogs.
    We are unappreciated until the Wolves come to devour the Sheep.

    Think of it as your Superman Disguise. No one can know, unless there is a need for a phone booth.
    You bought a handgun and got a CHP, and now you're what? Superman? Batman? Wolverine?

    Do you dress up in your cape at night and stand in front of the mirror practicing your lethal quick draw? Puh-leeze.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie1826 View Post
    My wife's aunt and uncle are in town and took us to dinner tonight. They are pretty liberal so I didn't mention anything gun related (I was carrying), but they actually started the subject. They were working security at some church function a while back and were amazed that people were trying to bring guns. I asked them if the people had CHPs and they said that they all did, so I asked them what the problem is. They said that they don't know who the bad ones are so they don't want anyone but security carrying.
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    i have to repeat a previously asked question because i may have missed the answer somewhere...how did they know people were armed?...

    were they asking?...

    were they using metal detectors?...

    how?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt58 View Post
    Remember the Lady Dr. at Luby's in Kilgore who left her gun in her car during Dinner just that one time. Point of clarity it was in Killeen We are the Sheep Dogs.
    We are unappreciated until the Wolves come to devour the Sheep.

    Think of it as your Superman Disguise. No one can know, unless there is a need for a phone booth.

    "Sheepdog" is a term used by people who posses both a concealed carry permit and delusions of grandeur and who believe that their permit came W/ a bat cape. (or in this case a big red S )

    IMO the whole sheepdog myth is nothing more than CHP elitism. It's a way for CHP holders to aggrandize themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    "Sheepdog" is a term used by people who posses both a concealed carry permit and delusions of grandeur and who believe that their permit came W/ a bat cape. (or in this case a big red S )

    IMO the whole sheepdog myth is nothing more than CHP elitism. It's a way for CHP holders to aggrandize themselves.
    agreed..the use of the term has grown old and quite tiresome...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
    agreed..the use of the term has grown old and quite tiresome...
    The term sheepdog takes my mind right here

    MY FIRST DAY OF CONCEALED CARRY

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
    agreed..the use of the term has grown old and quite tiresome...
    I agree with my fellow posters here, and wish we could get the mods to put a "sticky" at the top of the page explaining why we shouldn't use that inapproriate, hackneyed concept.

    Also, let's get rid of that misused "sheep" smilie as well.

    Just my $0.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    The term sheepdog takes my mind right here

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    You could have disproved them by blowing your own head off out of frustration right there at the table. I know I would have

    Seriously though, it's hard to have conversations with people who know better. Good job and try to keep it to difference subjects, even though you want to hammer them with reality and get into a big debate. The liberals normally walk off defeated but bitter and it's not worth the drama it would cause within the family.

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    Ok... I am going to counter from the other side of this argument... for arguments sake of course

    Maybe.. just maybe their security team is well prepared. I say that coming from a church that I feel is very prepared.

    A little background on my church...

    Average weekend attendance is usually 9,000 to 12,000.

    With that many people on one campus (we have several campuses) security is an extremely high priority. At any service we will have over 1000 children in their own church service.

    I know from being a volunteer that there are at least 50 security volunteers and 20+ uniformed officers located throughout the campus on any sunday. Some of the Volunteers are off-duty LEO's and are carrying. They are highly organized and alway connected via radio to the central security office. And yes they all have earbuds.
    I feel that my family and very well protected on Sundays.

    I notice at least one security team member about every 20 to 30 feet on campus and they are not easy to notice. Of course the entire campus is covered by security cameras that are constantly monitored.
    There is also a medical team of doctors and nurses all of whom are available for any emergencies.

    I feel like they do everything they possibly do to prevent a bad event from happing at my church. I feel very confident that should a badguy bring a weapon to the church with bad intentions.. they would not make it very far... if they even made it to the door.

    My 2 cents...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    The term sheepdog takes my mind right here

    MY FIRST DAY OF CONCEALED CARRY
    Now that was funny; I could almost believe it but for the description of carrying 6 Glocks at once. Too funny.
    "Be justified. Blood may be easily wiped from the sword.
    It cannot, however, be put back from where it came." --Quicksabre

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