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This is a discussion on Naive Sheep within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by 376matt Ok... I am going to counter from the other side of this argument... for arguments sake of course Maybe.. just maybe ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 376matt View Post
    Ok... I am going to counter from the other side of this argument... for arguments sake of course

    Maybe.. just maybe their security team is well prepared. I say that coming from a church that I feel is very prepared.

    A little background on my church...

    Average weekend attendance is usually 9,000 to 12,000.

    With that many people on one campus (we have several campuses) security is an extremely high priority. At any service we will have over 1000 children in their own church service.

    I know from being a volunteer that there are at least 50 security volunteers and 20+ uniformed officers located throughout the campus on any sunday. Some of the Volunteers are off-duty LEO's and are carrying. They are highly organized and alway connected via radio to the central security office. And yes they all have earbuds.
    I feel that my family and very well protected on Sundays.

    I notice at least one security team member about every 20 to 30 feet on campus and they are not easy to notice. Of course the entire campus is covered by security cameras that are constantly monitored.
    There is also a medical team of doctors and nurses all of whom are available for any emergencies.

    I feel like they do everything they possibly do to prevent a bad event from happing at my church. I feel very confident that should a badguy bring a weapon to the church with bad intentions.. they would not make it very far... if they even made it to the door.

    My 2 cents...
    so, if you have your permit... can you carry?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksabre View Post
    Now that was funny; I could almost believe it but for the description of carrying 6 Glocks at once. Too funny.
    Oh yes that gem,...lol the first time I read it a few weeks ago It took me a paragraph or so to realize it was fake! I was like...man oh man the anti gunners must love this!
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    They must belong to The Holy Temple of SWAT Instructors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    so, if you have your permit... can you carry?
    Yes,.. I think that they request staff of church to leave sidearms in vehicles, but there are no signs warning no firearms.

    However I think in SC you need written permission to carry on church grounds. I may be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    The term sheepdog takes my mind right here

    MY FIRST DAY OF CONCEALED CARRY

    Try this one
    Dangit, now I've got Diet Dr Pepper coming out of my nose. Should have put up a 'do not drink while reading' warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexHassin View Post
    There first pastor and founder, Ted Haggard was resigned after it was discovered that he used meth and on multiple occasions hired a male escorts. Another scandal fallowed up latter about less then consensual acts with a young man in the church. Below are two quick articles I quickly found.
    Haggard admits 'sexual immorality' - Life- msnbc.com
    Former Church Member: Haggard Performed Sex Act - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com
    The comment was still uncalled for and has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    "Sheepdog" is a term used by people who posses both a concealed carry permit and delusions of grandeur and who believe that their permit came W/ a bat cape. (or in this case a big red S )

    IMO the whole sheepdog myth is nothing more than CHP elitism. It's a way for CHP holders to aggrandize themselves.
    I don't agree with you a lot of the time, but I do on this subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    It has been said on some of these replies but it makes me feel better to stick my 2 cents worth in. YOU CANNOT TALK OR HAVE ANY LEGITIMATE CONVERSATION WITH ANY KIND OF SHEEP--BE THEM OBAMA SHEEP, GUN SHEEP, LIBERAL SHEEP ETC. They will only wake up, unfortunately, when the SHTF--be it Obama and his liberals taking the US down the road to complete financial ruin and destruction of our American way of life, or be it unfortunate acts of violence against these same sheep. I am Jewish and I consider myself a student of history and when I watch those pix of Jews being rounded up in the 1930s and 40s in Germany with disbelief that this is happening to them even though they are german citizens and I see this fascist/socialist wannabe dictator throw away our Constitution, I am convinced that this can DEFINITELY happen here--AND I WILL NOT BE A SHEEP.
    But you are already a sheep - anyone who thinks the American way of life only became threatened 18 months ago, instead of a decade ago under a different leader, is just a sheep of a different sort.
    "To predict the behavior of ordinary people in advance, you only have to assume that they will always try to escape a disagreeable situation with the smallest possible expenditure of intelligence." Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
    i have to repeat a previously asked question because i may have missed the answer somewhere...how did they know people were armed?...

    were they asking?...

    were they using metal detectors?...

    how?...
    They were wanding people and searching purses, bags, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    The term sheepdog takes my mind right here

    MY FIRST DAY OF CONCEALED CARRY

    Try this one

    Warning do not drink while reading
    That was great! I didn't know Paul Blart was also a writer.
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    I still can't get by the church security thing.
    Do you really need securitry in church or are you just giving parishoners
    something to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    It has been said on some of these replies but it makes me feel better to stick my 2 cents worth in. YOU CANNOT TALK OR HAVE ANY LEGITIMATE CONVERSATION WITH ANY KIND OF SHEEP--BE THEM OBAMA SHEEP, GUN SHEEP, LIBERAL SHEEP ETC. They will only wake up, unfortunately, when the SHTF--be it Obama and his liberals taking the US down the road to complete financial ruin and destruction of our American way of life, or be it unfortunate acts of violence against these same sheep. I am Jewish and I consider myself a student of history and when I watch those pix of Jews being rounded up in the 1930s and 40s in Germany with disbelief that this is happening to them even though they are german citizens and I see this fascist/socialist wannabe dictator throw away our Constitution, I am convinced that this can DEFINITELY happen here--AND I WILL NOT BE A SHEEP.
    I guess Rush is your sheepdog...say baaahhh
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    Quote Originally Posted by varmonter View Post
    I still can't get by the church security thing.
    Do you really need securitry in church or are you just giving parishoners
    something to do.
    Again, I invite you to google "New Life Church Shooting" For that matter, just google "Church Shooting" and see what you get.

    That said no church security team is going to go through my wife's purse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie1826 View Post
    They were wanding people and searching purses, bags, etc...
    thanks...i was wondering where their "we know how to find them" attitude came from....

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    Itís a course joke with a point behind it, crude yes, that shows that perhaps a threes another angle to remember and consider about that church and its security. Also why miss another opportunity to make fun of a hypocrite like that man.
    its originally about Muslim hypocrites I think its gets the point across of the type of person I am talking about.
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