Stopped tonight by local LEO

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    Stopped tonight by local LEO

    I have a tendency to put my foot in my mouth at the worst times... so lets get that out of the way now. Luckily the officer was nice about it.

    I was coming home from dropping off some movies at Blockbuster when I noticed a borough police cruiser in my rear view. I checked my speed and I was going the speed limit, then next thing I saw were the lights popping on.

    I was thinking "Oh great here we go". I have about 3 handguns in the car. One on me, one in the glovebox, and one in my bag. PA is not a duty to inform state just for the record. I pull off into an empty parking lot. The officer walks up, I have my window down already since it was nice out. I placed my hands on the steering wheel. The conversation went something like this:

    Officer: "Good evening, do you know why I stopped you"?
    Me: "I have no idea sir".
    Officer: "When you braked back there I noticed your right tail light is out. May I see your DL, insurance and registration".
    Me: "Ok, before I reach for anything I need to let you know I have a LTCF and I currently have a holstered 1911 on my right hip. My wallet is on that side, how would you like me to proceed"?
    Officer: "Go a head and reach for your wallet".

    I handed him my LTCF and DL. Meanwhile I went for my registration and insurance. I keep it in my visor and not my glove box. As he is handing my back my LTCF he asked:

    Officer: "Why do you need a firearm"?
    Me: "Why not"? <--- That was my foot in mouth
    Officer: "... Hold on here, I'll be right back".

    A short time later he came back with a warning that I needed to have my light fixed in 5 days. He didn't say anything about my comment or the gun after that. He told me to have a good evening and that I am free to go.

    I felt pretty sheepish after my comment, but like I said I have that tendency to say things like that at the worst times.

    Overall it turned out well...

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    I like the "why not" response, it would be interesting to see what his reasoning is.
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    I personally don't think you said anything wrong. I think you did a good job.....

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    About the same as my "because I want to" answer. (Which I've never had to give to a LEO, because I've never been asked.)
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    I would have said,"sir, with all due respect, because I don't know when evil will rear its ugly head, or where"
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    If I asked you the question about why do you need a firearm (which I would not) and you had already been gracious enough to let me know you were armed and showed me your CCW (which you did not have to do but it is always appreciated when you do) then the answer you gave should not have caused the officer to take offense. I think you did a good job given the circumstances.
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    Pennsylvania doesn't require notification.

    I you hadn't notified, he'd have never asked the question.

    As to why you have a firearm, it's simply none of his business.

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    Like the others said, I don't see that you did anything wrong.

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    I always have a great comeback whenever I'm asked a silly question like that...



    and I usually think of it about an hour later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanimator View Post
    Pennsylvania doesn't require notification.

    I you hadn't notified, he'd have never asked the question.

    As to why you have a firearm, it's simply none of his business.
    I did so more because I basically had it somewhat exposed and it was in an OWB holster under my shirt. If I had lifted my butt up to reach for my wallet, it would have been easily exposed and things could have gotten ugly fast.

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    Sounds like it went well and you did good.
    As far as your answer, I wouldn't care what it was as long as it wasn't , "To shoot cops."

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    That was a good stop. I applaud you on a job well done.

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    I have no problem with a polite, "Why not?"
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    good encounter! glad it all turned out well for you. I think, if I'm ever asked that question by a LEO about why I have a gun on me, I think I'll just say, "Officer, I've been legally carrying for over X amount of years, and with all the uncertainty in the World, I, like you, just wish to come home safely every night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I have no problem with a polite, "Why not?"
    +1. Why is he asking you that question anyway? Is his job to approve or deny applicants for permits? Is yours up for revocation and your in questioning?


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