CCW in Norfolk Airport?

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    CCW in Norfolk Airport?

    Title says it. I looked on Hangunlaw and its only talk about the terminals.

    If I'm just there to pick someone up at the baggage area, do i have to lock it in the car or can I leave it on?

    Thanks.

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    Only sterile areas are off limits in VA, therefore you are legal until you hit the TSA checkpoint on your way to the gate.
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    awesome, thanks for the reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by Free American View Post
    Only sterile areas are off limits in VA, therefore you are legal until you hit the TSA checkpoint on your way to the gate.
    Not so sure about that.

    See:

    18.2-287.01. Carrying weapon in air carrier airport terminal.

    It shall be unlawful for any person to possess or transport into any air carrier airport terminal in the Commonwealth any (i) gun or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile or projectile of any kind, (ii) frame, receiver, muffler, silencer, missile, projectile or ammunition designed for use with a dangerous weapon, and (iii) any other dangerous weapon, including explosives, stun weapons as defined in 18.2-308.1, and those weapons specified in subsection A of 18.2-308. Any such weapon shall be subject to seizure by a law-enforcement officer. A violation of this section is punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor. Any weapon possessed or transported in violation of this section shall be forfeited to the Commonwealth and disposed of as provided in subsection A of 18.2-308.

    The provisions of this section shall not apply to any police officer, sheriff, law-enforcement agent or official, or conservation police officer, or conservator of the peace employed by the air carrier airport, nor shall the provisions of this section apply to any passenger of an airline who, to the extent otherwise permitted by law, transports a lawful firearm, weapon, or ammunition into or out of an air carrier airport terminal for the sole purposes, respectively, of (i) presenting such firearm, weapon, or ammunition to U.S. Customs agents in advance of an international flight, in order to comply with federal law, (ii) checking such firearm, weapon, or ammunition with his luggage, or (iii) retrieving such firearm, weapon, or ammunition from the baggage claim area.

    Any other statute, rule, regulation, or ordinance specifically addressing the possession or transportation of weapons in any airport in the Commonwealth shall be invalid, and this section shall control.
    Athough not Norfork, you might want to take a look at: http://www.vcdl.org/letters/mwaa2008.pdf
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    Even if it is 100% legal why do you want to even take that risk? Flame me if you desire but I would lock it up in the car. There are way too many variables that can take place inside an airport for me to take that risk.

    Again, flame me if you desire but I'm not bringing a firearm into an airport even if it is 100% legal when I'm picking someone up. They can call me when they hit the curb.

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    Sorry.. I missed an above post and posted the same info.
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    Have him bring his bags outside. Don't go armed into the building. Stay with your car at the curb or they will tow you. That's the drill for me, I have done it a few times.
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    Well i guess its staying it in the car, its my wife thats coming and shed probly be a little if i told her to just meet me outside lol

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    wow

    If your not going to be going thru the security checkpoint then why even worry about it? It's legal....
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    Not so fast, please

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinstk View Post
    If your not going to be going thru the security checkpoint then why even worry about it? It's legal....
    I don't think so!

    See VA law at 18.2-287.01. at post #4, above.

    INAL, as my signature says.

    However, I hope no one inadvertently becomes a test-case based on opinions others have posted here.

    There is a lot of confusion created by what applies to General Aviation facilities, both private & commercial (such as air charter, bush flying, etc) & common carriers (Aviation FedEx and UPS (and others)

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    what applies air carriers.

    The issue here is an "air carrier airport terminal" -- not a General Aviation facility or Common Carrier facility.

    And IMHO/INAL opinion the entire air carrier airport terminal is no carry!

    BTW -- In some smaller airports in some parts of the country the physical layout complicates the process, as GA uses the same "terminal" as the air carrier. I always was wary when flying in Alaska.

    However, see: http://www.vcdl.org/aircarrier.html which list Norfolk, VA as one of the nine airports in Virginia covered by the gun ban in 18.2-287.01.
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    hmmmm

    Well now comes into play the definition of a "terminal". Is it where you board the aircraft? or is it where you buy your ticket, check your baggage & and pass thru security? Concourse and terminal are sometimes used synonomously but are they really the same? Is a "terminal" the entire airport or just were you board the plane? Perhaps I spoke out of turn saying it was legal.... but I'll take my chances next time I'm there picking up a traveler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinstk View Post
    Well now comes into play the definition of a "terminal". Is it where you board the aircraft? or is it where you buy your ticket, check your baggage & and pass thru security? Concourse and terminal are sometimes used synonomously but are they really the same? Is a "terminal" the entire airport or just were you board the plane? Perhaps I spoke out of turn saying it was legal.... but I'll take my chances next time I'm there picking up a traveler.
    shoot I was just nervous sitting outside at the car with the security/police out there! I never even went inside. It just feels weird! lol
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