This is a discussion on Need news articles where CC saved a life within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Having a debate with someone who thinks concealed carry won't save lives because he thinks you won't be able to stop an attacker who already ...
Having a debate with someone who thinks concealed carry won't save lives because he thinks you won't be able to stop an attacker who already has their gun out. He thinks his martial arts will save him by disarming the attacker. Need some news articles about a victim using a gun for self defense in a public setting.
Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
-- L. Neil Smith
I'm a blackbelt in Hap Ki Do, and not from a belt factory. Been practicing over 5 years and have played around with martial artists of many styles. I have competed in competitions and combat scenarios. Our school has done training for LEO's and other government and civilian security agencies. This is all background. Not bragging just saying I am very confident in my unarmed skills against unarmed and non-firearm armed BG's.
For some reason I can't find it now, but there is a story that gets passed around on this forum about a CC permit holder in Fairfax Virignia (next county over to me) who went unarmed with his wife on a walk feeling safe in their neighborhood. 4-5 (I don't remember which) Young men jumped them, killed his wife and i believe they left him almost dead, maybe they thought he was dead i dont remember. (ill keep looking for it hopefully someone else can find it).
Any martial artist not blowing smoke will admit to you (and himself if hes smart) that one on one hes not worried. I get that I'm there. 2v1, I'm confidant enough I think. But anyone who is positive they can clean up 3 or more unarmed... needs to try it. I got my permit for who knows what, 3v1 mugging, who knows.
Just my $.02
Check out the "Good" stories in the "Good, Bad and Ugly" section.
An enemy of liberty is no friend of mine. I do not owe respect to anyone who would enslave me by government force, nor is it wise for such a person to expect it. -- Isaiah Amberay
A store robbery, that wasn't because of an armed clerk.
Clerks Who Shot, Killed Would-Be Robber Won’t Face Charges - News Story - WSOC Charlotte
I prefer to live dangerously free than safely caged!
"Our houses are protected by the good Lord and a gun. And you might meet 'em both if you show up here not welcome son." Josh Thompson "Way Out Here"
some overlap w/ the Armed Citizen, plus links to gun rights in the news:
Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters
blog from Front Sight instructor. not everyone is a fan of his, but he has some good blog entries:
Ignatius Piazza | Front Sight Blog
i bookmarked this one a while back..
A Gunfighting Living Legend - Self Defense & Firearms Training
I'm a first degree blackbelt...and if i'm seriously outnumbered against unarmed opponents i'm either running or the gun is coming out...or both...Any martial artist not blowing smoke will admit to you (and himself if hes smart) that one on one hes not worried. I get that I'm there. 2v1, I'm confidant enough I think. But anyone who is positive they can clean up 3 or more unarmed... needs to try it. I got my permit for who knows what, 3v1 mugging, who knows.
Magazine <> clip - know the difference
martyr is a fancy name for crappy fighter
You have never lived until you have almost died. For those that have fought for it, life has a special flavor the protected will never know
there are situations where martial arts is a better tool than a gun.
there are situations where a knife is a better tool than a gun.
there are situations where a pen is a better tool than a gun.
there are situations where a phone is a better tool than a gun.
but the truth is, there are lots of situations where a gun is the correct tool to use.
not every situation is 'you walk around the corner and all of a sudden there is a guy with a gun on you, who is well within arm’s reach'
people defend themselves with guns every day and im sure we can all come up with tons of real life examples of a gun being the best / only self defense tool for that situation.
the right thing to do is to have as many tools avaliable to use (skills and items) as possible.
If appropriate, dissarm him and draw your own weapon.
If apporpriate, toss him your wallet or other distraction as you draw your own weapon.
Georg BüchnerWo die Notwehr aufhört, fängt der Mord an
(Murder begins where self-defense ends)
this is my school of thought for both unarmed and armed encounters. serves many purposes.If apporpriate, toss him your wallet or other distraction as you draw your own weapon.
1. the guy who is only after money may turn and pick up the wallet and run
2. it may distract him so YOu can run
3. it may distract him so YOU can draw
4. if he doesn't turn his attention you YOU it may help to read his intent
Tell him he's a fool and that a gun beats his martial arts every time. Martial arts won't do him a bit of good if his attacker is not within reach.
Glock 26 XD9sc
Ruger SR9c Ruger LCP