There may be hope!

There may be hope!

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    There may be hope!

    I found this article in the Jacksonville Journal-Courier, Tues., July 6th.

    Sen. sees hope for concealed carry bill.

    Each year Sen. John O. Jones has been in Springfield, he has introduced or co-sponsored concealed carry legislation.
    This January, he intends to introduce legislation again.
    But this time, because of a Supreme Court decision about Chicago's gun ban, Jones thinks the legislation may move forward.
    "The last few years, only two states, IL. and WI., have been without concealed carry rights," Jones said. "We've tried and tried to convince Chicago legislators that the people have the right to bear arms. The court ruling means we've been right all along."
    Jones said he supports concealed carry with provisions for training and safety.
    "The IL. Sheriff's Association supports that, and I think if someone wants to carry a gun, they should be able to do it."
    Jones said he believes more northern IL. legislators are learning about firearms and realize they can be used safely.
    "I'm working with the IL. Rifle Association and the National Rifle Association to draft the bill to give people the rights to carry a concealed weapon," Jones said.

    It might be a little premature to begin the celebration, but I do think there is cause to hope. A few years ago, while at the IL. state fair in Springfield, I was told by a rep. from the IL. Rifle Assn. that the CC bill was defeated by only one vote.
    I think it would help if everyone sent a message to their IL. representatives telling them you favor a concealed carry law for IL.


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    That'd be great! I hope that happens! It's about time the sheeple in charge got some gun education.
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    Does not State law trump city ordnance?

    Would not State law trump the mayor of any city in the state?
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    Yeah if any law is drafted it needs to have something in common with Oklahoma. Oklahoma's Self-Defense Act explicitly states that city, county or other local laws do not trump state law.
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    That would be great
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    I spend more than half my waking time in IL. I would be so thankful to not stop, unholster, unload, lock up, and put it in the trunk (not to mention the reverse) when I cross the state line.
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    That sounds good
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    I hope it does, then i can go visit my uncle...With out locking it up in my car....
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    Quote Originally Posted by searcher 45 View Post
    Does not State law trump city ordnance?

    Would not State law trump the mayor of any city in the state?
    I don't know, but New York City doesn't recognize a New York state permit.

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    The state law has to expressly state preemption of county and local ordinances. The NY law does not, so NYC gets their rules.
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    I hate to say that after living in IL for years, it is not a matter of what the downstate people want, it is a matter of what Chicago wants. And since Chicago is run by Mayor Daley, the CCW law will not pass there until he is no longer in politics in that state. Sorry.

    Also, most of the laws in IL have a long tradition of including "home rule" which allows every little burg to have more stringent (and inconsistent) laws.

    But hey, hope is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoFan View Post
    I hate to say that after living in IL for years, it is not a matter of what the downstate people want, it is a matter of what Chicago wants. And since Chicago is run by Mayor Daley, the CCW law will not pass there until he is no longer in politics in that state. Sorry.

    Also, most of the laws in IL have a long tradition of including "home rule" which allows every little burg to have more stringent (and inconsistent) laws.

    But hey, hope is good.
    and a Republican will never sit in a Kennedy held seat in Massachusetts either..... it can happen

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    I like the idea of mandatory training/testing. You know, maybe we should have people trained and tested before they vote. Wait...I think we tried that already. It didn't work out.
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