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    Cool Gun permit allows quick access to Texas Capitol........

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    This has been in place a couple of months. I think it is a good move.
    Here is the article.

    AUSTIN, Texas – Everyone from lobbyists to lawyers and journalists is rushing to get permits to carry guns inside the Texas Capitol, where legislators already often tote pistols in boots and purses or stow them away inside their desks.

    A unique loophole in a new security procedure means a gun permit is like a special-access pass into the domed building, allowing people who are certified to carry a gun to bypass lines at the metal detectors that were set up after a shooting incident earlier this year.

    "Nobody wants to be the one standing in line behind three hundred kids wearing the same colored T-shirt," said University of Texas political scientist Jim Henson. "If you're trying to get in and out really quick and there's going to be choke points, well, people don't want to have to deal with that."

    There's now a frenzy for folks to get trained and licensed to carry a firearm, especially before the legislative session begins in January. It's not required that people have a gun to enter the Capitol through the express lane. Merely holding a valid permit, and presenting it at the entrance, will get them expedited entry.

    "Everybody is doing it or is planning to do it," said lobbyist Bill Miller, who has taken the required training and is waiting for his license to arrive in the mail.

    The metal detectors were installed at the Capitol's four public entrances in May, a few months after a man fired off a few rounds outside the doors of the main entrance. No one was harmed.

    Republican Gov. Rick Perry, who is known to sometimes carry a .380 caliber pistol, vehemently objected to the metal detectors, saying he didn't want to see airport-like security logjams at a Capitol known for its open and freewheeling culture.

    Texas law allows people to carry a weapon if they have a permit and as long as the gun is concealed. A separate lane for license-holders had to be created so gun-toters could enter without having to pull out their weapons — or unconceal them — along with their wallets and keys.

    Guns were previously allowed in the Capitol. With the arrival of the metal detectors, permit-holders now get their licenses scanned to make sure they are in good standing and their bags are put through an X-ray scanner.

    The Department of Public Safety, which tracks data on gun permits, said it's too early to tell if there has been a surge in applications. However, interviews with lobbyists, consultants, and state officials show Capitol insiders are flocking to sign up for them.

    It's all been great for business, said Mike Cox, who has become the go-to guy to train political insiders on getting their gun permits.

    "There's been a burst of interest. They want to get that express tag to gain entrance to the Capitol," Cox said. "It's their job. They don't want to be impeded by visitors on busy days when there's a lot of tourists."

    Cox has a shooting range just south of Austin, and lobbyists and others in the political in-crowd take his 10-hour class.

    The students learned about nonviolent resolution techniques, listened to harrowing 911 calls and, to demonstrate the dangers of a firearm, horrifying videos are shown that include a graphic suicide and one in which a man accidentally kills his friend. They also have to pass a written test on the course material and then must undergo a background check, pay about $260 or so in fees, and get fingerprinted.

    That lawmakers would take the trouble to install magnetometers and then allow weapons inside has drawn criticism from gun-control advocates, including the Brady Washington-based Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which called the policy "ludicrous." Some tourists also were perplexed by the new procedures.

    "Where's the security come from if you can still get in with a gun?" asked Canadian tourist Clyde Ducharme, who went through the metal detectors one recent morning.

    Lobbyist Michelle Wittenburg, who recently received her gun permit and has been signing up her colleagues so they can do the same, said the security at the Capitol is still strong because permit-holders aren't the ones who would pose any threat.

    "If you do have a CHL (gun permit) then that shows you have gone through a background check and you've been vetted, so to speak," Wittenburg said. "I don't think those are the people that are going to cause your problems in the Capitol."
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    These metal detectors & new rule about letting CHL holders bypass the main line have been in effect for a couple of months, yes. OTOH, the next legislative session starts up in January 2011. So there's a building rush of lobbyists, state employees, etc getting their license now in preparation for the next session. Given it can take 2+ months to process the application, it makes sense for those people to hurry & take the class now.

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    You gotta love the way they do things in Texas.
    I really hope I can move there one day

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    Old news. May 21, 2010 Houston Chronicle http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/7016253.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by happydude View Post
    You gotta love the way they do things in Texas.
    I really hope I can move there one day
    Yeah thats totally different. imagine if they did that at airports?

    "You have a CPL and are carrying a weapon, no problem. No point in going through the metal detector since we know it's going to beep. Just go right on past the long line, don't need to take your shoes off either!"

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    May be old news but it never hurts to see some popular support for us law abiding citizens for a change.
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    I wonder if they would accept out of state permits? I don't really have any need or desire to go to the Texas Capitol building but if I was there it would be nice to cut in line because of my permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigStill View Post
    May be old news but it never hurts to see some popular support for us law abiding citizens for a change.
    Amen!!! I can't understand why any business that's 30.06 posted doesn't get it. CHL holders in Texas are NOT the folks who are going to do you harm. You gotta love Rick Perry. I'm voting for him...again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJVP View Post
    Old news. May 21, 2010 Houston Chronicle http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/7016253.html
    Yes, they are old news, but not less good for that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rammerjammer View Post
    I wonder if they would accept out of state permits? I don't really have any need or desire to go to the Texas Capitol building but if I was there it would be nice to cut in line because of my permit.
    I almost would drive to Texas only for that!
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    I believe west virginia does too!

    Maybe someone can confirm this to be true in West Virginia.
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