Is it worth applying for a TX CHL?

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    Is it worth applying for a TX CHL?

    I've now been a resident of Texas for the requisite 6 months for the CHL application. My question is whether its worth doing so or not? My AZ CCW is still very valid and TX recognizes non-res permits per www.handgunlaw.us.

    So, should I fork over the $140 and apply for a TX permit? I'm considering it since Texas is a must-inform state and I don't want to run into an ignorant officer that doesn't realize that my AZ permit is valid in Texas.

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    I may be wrong, but I think that when you are a resident here you can not use an out of state license.

    It is worth the effort to get the Texas CHL for two reasons: 1) avoiding issues if you are stopped; 2) getting the opportunity to familiarize yourself with Texas law.

    There may also be an advantage to having both the Texas and AZ license if doing so give you additional states with which you will have reciprocity. For example, does OK or Arkansas or Louisiana reciprocate with your AZ license? If you were traveling in these other places and had a TX DL but AZ license would you have some "splainin" to do---even if it turned out that technically you were right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    I may be wrong, but I think that when you are a resident here you can not use an out of state license.
    I have a TX driver's license and an AZ permit. According to http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/texas.pdf "Texas Honors Non-Resident Permits/Licenses"
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcon View Post
    I have a TX driver's license and an AZ permit. According to http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/texas.pdf "Texas Honors Non-Resident Permits/Licenses"
    But is it codified that you can carry as a TX resident with a non-resident permit?

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    I think that when you are a resident here you can not use an out of state license.
    This is incorrect. Nowhere in the law does it prohibit a Texas resident from carrying in Texas with an out-of-state non-resident license.

    But is it codified that you can carry as a TX resident with a non-resident permit?
    Unless something is expressly illegal, it is legal.

    I've now been a resident of Texas for the requisite 6 months for the CHL application. My question is whether its worth doing so or not?
    Obviously getting a Texas license is ideal, if for no other reason than the CHL class will get you brushed up on specifics of Texas laws.

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    Allow me to rephrase, is it codified that you can't carry with a non-resident permit if you are a resident?

    I'm guessing that the answer is no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Allow me to rephrase, is it codified that you can't carry with a non-resident permit if you are a resident?

    I'm guessing that the answer is no.
    I've been researching since I posted this...I can't find anything relating to a TX resident using a non-TX CCW/CHL being a no-no...or even that it's expressly allowed.
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    There's one reason to get your TX CHL. Since you are no longer an AZ resident, Colorado, Florida, Michigan, New Hampshire, and South Carolina will not accept your AZ permit (Maine has the same rule, but they don't honor AZ permits anyway). They only honor permits held by residents of the states they have reciprocity with. In order to carry in these states, you'll need to get your TX CHL.
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    WELCOME ... you are now a TX resident. Your "non-resident" status no longer exists in Texas. Is it worth it? Only if you want to legally carry outisde your house or car, then a TX CHL will not only be worth it, it will be mandatory ... only you can answer that for you. Me? I would get one ASAP so I could legally carry in TX again, & keep the guns at home until it shows up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimBobTex View Post
    WELCOME ... you are now a TX resident. Your "non-resident" status no longer exists in Texas. Is it worth it? Only if you want to legally carry outisde your house or car, then a CHL will not only be worth it, it will be mandatory ... only you can answer that for you. Me? I would get one ASAP so I could legally carry in TX again, & keep the guns at home until it shows up.
    Only if TX law states that a resident must carry with a resident permit. So far, no one has found a section of code stating as such. TX law even states that if one has a TX non-res that if they relocate to TX that their permit is still valid.

    The OP is not carrying on a non-res permit, but rather a state permit that is recognized by Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimBobTex View Post
    WELCOME ... you are now a TX resident. Your "non-resident" status no longer exists in Texas. Is it worth it? Only if you want to legally carry outisde your house or car, then a TX CHL will not only be worth it, it will be mandatory ... only you can answer that for you. Me? I would get one ASAP so I could legally carry in TX again, & keep the guns at home until it shows up.
    TX doesn't distinguish between a res or non-res permit. I can use my AZ permit totally legally to carry in TX, even with a TX DL.
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    The Texas law says you must report an address change within a certain amount of time or the license is revoked. While you don't have a Texas license, it might be worth investigating if Arizona has a similar requirement. Also, is an Arizona permit still a legal permit if you are no longer an Arizona resident? I don't know the answers to these questions, but they did cross my mind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camjr View Post
    The Texas law says you must report an address change within a certain amount of time or the license is revoked. While you don't have a Texas license, it might be worth investigating if Arizona has a similar requirement. Also, is an Arizona permit still a legal permit if you are no longer an Arizona resident? I don't know the answers to these questions, but they did cross my mind...
    Yes, it's still considered legal even if you're not a resident. There is no stipulation that you need to be an AZ res to use it. Also, yes, I did report to them every time my address has changed.
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    The question that has to be answered is if his Arizona permit is still valid given that he is no longer a resident of Arizona. If it's valid, then he is good to go in Texas.

    There are lots of folks in texas that carry on a Florida or Utah permit.
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    Then there's that pesky federal Gun Free School Zone law (section (q) 2 B ii), which reads in part
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