Private Security Asks For Your Permit What Next?
This is a discussion on Private Security Asks For Your Permit What Next? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I wasn’t actually there when this happened but the following is what I was told.
Two people walking to a car in a parking lot ...
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August 13th, 2010 08:41 PM
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Private Security Asks For Your Permit What Next?
I wasn’t actually there when this happened but the following is what I was told.
Two people walking to a car in a parking lot at night. One is way past intoxicated the other doesn’t appear to be. They are arguing and the security guard approaches them and asks if everything’s OK. The drunk turns to the guard and tells him that her buddy has a gun.
The guard asked the buddy “do you have a gun sir?’ The buddy responds in the affirmative and the guard asks if he has a permit. Again, the buddy replies yes.
The guard then states that the police have been notified, they’re on their way and would the buddy mind if the guard secured his weapon until the police arrive. I want to be perfectly clear that this was a request the guard did not demand the weapon.
The buddy turns his weapon over to the guard and the guard holds it until the police arrive.
To be clear the guard didn’t demand anything in this scenario he asked if the guy was armed, he asked if he could see the permit and he asked if he could secure the weapon until the police arrived.
The buddy voluntarily complied W/ the guards's requests
So what would you do if a private security guard asked to inspect your permit and secure you weapon? Would you comply? Would you wait for the police?
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August 13th, 2010 08:41 PM
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August 13th, 2010 08:44 PM
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I would have ignored him and left. There is nothing he can do and you would have done nothing wrong, so why wait around? I am a busy person.
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August 13th, 2010 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I would have ignored him and left. There is nothing he can do and you would have done nothing wrong, so why wait around? I am a busy person.
I tend to agree with this. A parking lot security guard is not a police officer.
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August 13th, 2010 08:56 PM
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Not a chance. I'm not handing a gun to someone I do not know, who could possibly be a prohibited person.
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August 13th, 2010 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Not a chance. I'm not handing a gun to someone I do not know, who could possibly be a prohibited person.
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In Colorado merchant guards have to get a background check so it's possible but unlikely.
FWIW the guard was transferred off that site the next day
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August 13th, 2010 09:12 PM
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I don't have to show him my permit. I'm definitely not going to hand over my weapon to him. I agree with Kenny256. Security guard has no authorization to check my credentials or to disarm me.
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August 13th, 2010 09:16 PM
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I would have ignored him and walked away. I never should show my permit or give my weapon to a security guard.
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August 13th, 2010 09:36 PM
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The guard has no authority over your license and or weapon, no way in he$$ would I hand it over, just leave.
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August 13th, 2010 09:41 PM
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I would have done what Flo likes to say in her Progressive commercials..
And we are walking....
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August 13th, 2010 09:50 PM
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I likely would not have admitted to the guy that I was armed. Depending on the circumstances, it was probably none of his business. If so, I would have explained that clearly to him, probably with an expletive.
I would not have turned my gun over to him. Not only no, but... no way.
If we had committed no crime, I would not have waited for the police. The security guard could kiss my
if he didn't like it. Nor would I recommend he try to detain me as we were leaving.
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August 13th, 2010 10:02 PM
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So what would you do if a private security guard asked to inspect your permit and secure you weapon?
I would politely decline and leave. In most states, a security guard's authority is no different than any other private citizen.
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August 13th, 2010 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I would have ignored him and left. There is nothing he can do and you would have done nothing wrong, so why wait around? I am a busy person.
+1 on that. I will walk away but I will be watching him as I do so, in case he tries to attempt to tackle me or shoot me in the back. I am not giving up any weapons to him.
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August 13th, 2010 10:46 PM
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had a serurity guard ask for my permitt awhile back, i asked if it was his patrol area and he said no. i then told him it was none of his business. long story short i went back to my lunch and as i was leaving CHP showed up asked what was going on showed permitt and then he went to talk to barney. don't know what was said but the chippy was not to happy with barney at all.
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August 13th, 2010 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I would have ignored him and left. There is nothing he can do and you would have done nothing wrong, so why wait around? I am a busy person.
+1 No reason to hang around.
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August 13th, 2010 10:53 PM
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Something having to do with pounding and sand,I'm not surrendering my gun to any yahoo Security Guard.
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