CCW In National Parks

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    PaulG,

    Thanks for the link. I bookmarked it, as well as the VCDL web site.


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    If you want to get the US NPS and Department of the Interior's attention, get your US Congressman/woman to support your activities for CCW in NPS Areas. The NPS will stone wall any attempt to allow CCW in its areas. Seveal years ago the NPS attempted to stop all hunting in NPS Areas, including the National Recreation Areas inwich hunting is one of the primary reasons for their being.

    In dealing with NPS folks you have to remember you're dealing with folks who hate guns and gun owners. Its like going to PETA, the ACLU, the Brady Bunch and the DemoMarxist Party for the right to own a firearm. Ani't gonna happen if they can prevent it.

    The Managers in the NPS have one iron clad rule, follow the money and who ever dishes it out. If the House of Reps want CCW in National Parks, there will be CCW in National Parks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmgopher
    Here in TN not too long ago a woman got attacked by a bear! her child was killed and she was hospitalized. anyone wanna take a guess why she was alive? yep someone was carrying a gun when he shouldnt have been and fired a shot that scared the bear away.
    Don't tell me they arrested the guy with the gun and the bunny huggers protested that he disturbed a bear in it's natural environment.
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    See my new thread about this subject. sj

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    Where

    name or where please
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    Sorry,this same forum,labeled another state park carry. sj

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    Too bad President Bush is lukewarm on the 2nd Amendment. The NPS is part of the Department of the Interior. I don't see why Bush can't just order the Secretary of the Interior to get rid of the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jungle Work
    I worked as a NPS LE Ranger and Criminal Investigator for about 17 years. Only a fool would go into a NPS Area unarmed. I worked National Recreation Areas and the ammount of crime was tenfold of the natural areas and most of it was alcohol/drug induced. I seen career criminals who operate in Federal Areas because most LE is nil to non existant.
    Are there any statistics or reports available to the general public about crime in Natl / State / County Parks? If we are going to raise awareness or change legislator's minds, it would be good to have some hard facts.

    The county I live in has rules that you can't take a firearm into a county park either, including the rail-trail bike paths and even the very remote rural areas such as abandoned mills, mines, forges, etc. that are designated as parks but are basically just several acres of overgrown fields & woods, with no facilities or attendants. During the week when I would like to go, there is nobody else there. I like the solitude but hate the vulnerability. I'd like to get the rules changed so I could feel safe.

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    LibertyGal...
    If it is a remote rural area...will anyone see your firearm? (just a thought)....kinda like if a tree falls in a forest, and no one is there, does it make a sound?

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    I am an armed liberal. Democrat. I know those are supposed to be conflicting ideas, but that's the way I was raised. I would like to know why a federal government, completely run by Republicans, is so afraid of an armend citizenry?

    Why hasn't Bush and Company pushed for a national CCW right for all non-felon adults, without having to get a permit from a local sheriff? When I camp in the national forests my spouse and I are both armed, always. We NEVER carry into Yosemite though, and last year a black bear walked across the trail I was on just ten feet away. To say I was nervous is an understatement. I am adding Alaska Bear Spray to my Yosemite kit since a gun would definitely get me in more trouble than it would be worth. I have never understood the anti-gun crowd, on either side of the political spectrum.

    I would love a CCW, but here in CA they are nearly impossible to obtain unless you are "connected" to the Sheriff. If liberals really want to change the world for the better, they'd better begin by being liberal with their understanding of the Second Amendment. Asking the conservatives to uphold the 2nd is a waste of time. They're scared someone who just had his job sent to China may take it out on the CEO of the company.

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    Carry in Parks

    I do not work in a park, but have spoke with some of the "Park Rangers" about the increasing problem with the "Methamphetamine" cooker's. They say that many of the "cooker's" are setting up in the woods and forrest to avoid detection. I know from personal experience that these "cooker's/dealers" are pretty paranoid and frequently carry guns. These guy's alone (without even considering the rest of the criminal categories) would keep me from going into the parks unarmed.
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