Turned Down for RI Non-Resident

Turned Down for RI Non-Resident

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    Turned Down for RI Non-Resident

    As you can tell from the title of my thread I got my letter from AG Lynch in RI stating that I have been turned down for a RI permit. I do have some questions for all.

    1. Since I have been turned down for a RI permit, will renewing UT, FL, NH, CT or ME have problems with this? (Looking to see if anyone has experienced this)

    2. I do have the chance to appeal, anyone with a Non-Resident RI permit, is this a hoop or is it a waste of time?

    Thanks for any help or suggestions!
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    Did it include why you were turned down? If there was a legitimate reason you were turned down, such as a felony, then you will probably not be able to renew any of your permits either.

    If there was no reason to deny you then I would submit an appeal.
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    The AG's Office stated that I did not demonstrate "proper need" to have a permit issued. I have not had any felony or misdemeanors. As for the appeal, I have to appear in person at the AG's office.
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    Tell that AG you have the "right" to protect yourself IAW the Supreme Court.
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    JMO, but if you showed up for the meeting, I'm thinking you'd get the permit.

    Good luck with it.
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    Sorry about the permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaineGlock View Post
    As you can tell from the title of my thread I got my letter from AG Lynch in RI stating that I have been turned down for a RI permit. I do have some questions for all.

    1. Since I have been turned down for a RI permit, will renewing UT, FL, NH, CT or ME have problems with this? (Looking to see if anyone has experienced this)

    2. I do have the chance to appeal, anyone with a Non-Resident RI permit, is this a hoop or is it a waste of time?

    Thanks for any help or suggestions!
    Look at the forms for UT,FL,NH,CT,and ME. If they don't ask the question if you've been denied previously you'll be OK. If they do ask I'd make sure to renew early in case you have to explain in more detail why they turned you down.
    What grounds are you appealing on? Unless you've suddenly gotten death threats or suddenly carry cash in RI, I don't see them reversing themselves.Sorry I don't have a RI permit but this is pretty much the case in all the "may-issue" states.
    Maybe contact the SAF and see if maybe they're looking RI's direction, and need a non-resident plantiff for a CCW lawsuit.........
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    Can't speak for the RI permit but the NH application had a question about " Why I needed the Permit" (paraphrasing of coarse) But the point is if you didn't answer with the words for "personal defense" the permit would be declined. Perhaps you missed that.
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    You may have better luck asking in an RI specific forum somewhere. I can't believe the form states: "ON A SEPARATE SHEET OF PAPER OR LETTERHEAD, TYPE DETAILS AND SPECIFIC REASONS FOR YOUR NEED FOR A RHODE ISLAND PERMIT (ONLY TYPED LETTERS WILL BE ACCEPTED)"

    Maybe a local could give you the cheat sheets on what reasons go through without problems.

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    The SAF has filed a lawsuit over this in Westchester NYC: [LINK]


    The NYPD is about to review that issue here in NYC: [LINK]

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    I am running in to the same types of problems with Mass. My wife gor outright denied to have here restructions lifted. I have not heared anything back yet from my appeal. In my appeal letter I brought up the fact that I was in Law Enforcement for eight years. I got layed off from my department, budget cuts. So I will see where that gets me. Good luck with RI I really find it had to believe that states can just decide that you have no right to self protection. And on the other hand the state is not maindated to protect you when you are in there boarders. It puzzles me
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaineGlock View Post
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    The AG's Office stated that I did not demonstrate "proper need" to have a permit issued. I have not had any felony or misdemeanors. As for the appeal, I have to appear in person at the AG's office.
    Apparently RI plays fast and loose with the law.
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    Just a heads up, in RI 100% of pistol permit applications get denied on the first go around, 80-90% get approved on appeal. It is a pain in the butt to get a RI permit with all the hoops that they make you jump through. I also think that RI needs a good swift kick in the pants on the may issue stance.

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    A letter from your attorney containing a lot of zeros might change their mind.
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    Could be, RI is a may issue state. You don't need a reason in any shall issue state that I know of.
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