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    While waiting on my license to be processed I again went back over the Arkansas law on carry permits. I have always been curious how the definition of 'concealed' was interpreted. Rule 1.2 (h) 'Concealed'- "means to cover from observation so as to prevent public view."I asked the chief deputy of our county sheriff's department what that meant to him and specifically what if someone was 'printing' through their clothing. He said locally law enforcement would not get excitement just because some one was 'printing'. To me it means that I purposely do not try to show my firearm and I guess some common sense plays a role in that I would not try to conceal an IWB firearm with a tucked Under Armour spandex white form fitting shirt. But I cannot see where 'printing' would be a problem at least around where I live. My plan is to conceal as best as possible, but I am not as overly concerned as I once was.
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    I try to conceal as well as possible. Are many people observant or would they notice, probably not, but I don't want the one person who does notice and gets hysterical and starts to scream "guys got a gun" or does something else to draw attention to me, to cause me trouble that could be avoided by doing a better job of concealing my weapon.
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    I don't worry about printing here in VA...I work VERY HARD not to, but since OC is permissible, if I slip, I'm not too worried...

    I lived (and had a permit to CC) in Texas...we were taught in the class, and I've seen others post on this forum, that in Texas, if you print, you violate the law since OC is prohibited...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveJay View Post
    Location, Location, Location...

    I don't worry about printing here in VA...I work VERY HARD not to, but since OC is permissible, if I slip, I'm not too worried...

    I lived (and had a permit to CC) in Texas...we were taught in the class, and I've seen others post on this forum, that in Texas, if you print, you violate the law since OC is prohibited...
    I will inquire further, but I don't think that is the case here.
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    I carry as concealed as I can... I prefer no one know I am carrying. I limit my choices of concealment to enabling one handed draw. I use a tuckable holster and tuck and/or wear a cover garment. Permitted, O.C. is legal, though frowned upon in Iowa.
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    There is the legal or practical/hassle free reason for concealment and then there is the tactical reason. How well you try to conceal will be determined on how you view those reasons.

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    What say you more experienced carry guys/gals?
    Not really an issue around here.

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    Not an issue in SC.
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    In VA we can OC with/without permit. Can conceal with a permit. This means "if" we print, no big deal legally, however I always try to conceal best I can. If someone at a glance thinks you have nothing more than a cell phone under your shirt on your belt, I'd say you've concealed it good enough.
    If they glance and what they see draws even more of their attention because it caught their eye, then you are obviously printing more than "I" would be comfortable with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattdillon View Post
    While waiting on my license to be processed I again went back over the Arkansas law on carry permits. I have always been curious how the definition of 'concealed' was interpreted. Rule 1.2 (h) 'Concealed'- "means to cover from observation so as to prevent public view."I asked the chief deputy of our county sheriff's department what that meant to him and specifically what if someone was 'printing' through their clothing. He said locally law enforcement would not get excitement just because some one was 'printing'. To me it means that I purposely do not try to show my firearm and I guess some common sense plays a role in that I would not try to conceal an IWB firearm with a tucked Under Armour spandex white form fitting shirt. But I cannot see where 'printing' would be a problem at least around where I live. My plan is to conceal as best as possible, but I am not as overly concerned as I once was.
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    I guess I would have to ask the following: If you are committed to concealed carry for the purpose of protecting yourself and your loved ones, then why wouldn't you try to be as good at concealment as possible? Why wouldn't you dedicate yourself to doing your best NOT to print? Why wouldn't you do your best to follow the law in your locality? Why would anyone have such an apathetic attitude toward not worrying if they were concealed or not? Just sayin.......
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    In FL, concealed weapons must be concealed "from ordinary view."

    In all my lifetime, living in many places, not once have I ever heard anyone start screaming, "Oh my God, he's got a gun!" because someone's concealed firearm (or OC where legal) was detected. That means either no one was carrying (not likely) or no one noticed (likely) or no one cared (also likely). Lumps are lumps. The vast majority of people aren't looking that closely.
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    I don't worry about it too much. Try to be as concealed as possible but things happen sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by First Sgt View Post
    I guess I would have to ask the following: If you are committed to concealed carry for the purpose of protecting yourself and your loved ones, then why wouldn't you try to be as good at concealment as possible? Why wouldn't you dedicate yourself to doing your best NOT to print? Why wouldn't you do your best to follow the law in your locality? Why would anyone have such an apathetic attitude toward not worrying if they were concealed or not? Just sayin.......
    I guess I would have to ask the following: What reason, other than laws in a few jurisdictions that prohibit letting it be seen, does one have for worrying about whether it is fully concealed or not? Why should a person have to worry about it? I fail to see how the fact that a person looking might perceive the gun as in any way interfering with the reasons one might have for carrying one.

    I conceal, but I am in no way anal about it. If my cover shirt should be windblown or ride up as I go about my business, or if a close observer could make out that there is an object on my belt that looks like a gun (especially in a place where it is perfectly legal to wear no cover at all), I don't see it as a tragedy or that it in any way impairs it's effectiveness in protecting me or my family.

    It seems to me it is a matter of personal preference that reflects neither well nor poorly on the armed individual.
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