OK my turn - First traffic stop

OK my turn - First traffic stop

This is a discussion on OK my turn - First traffic stop within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Rode my KLX400 super moto to work this morning and got pulled at a radar trap in Northern Virginia. A motorcycle cop flagged me to ...

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    OK my turn - First traffic stop

    Rode my KLX400 super moto to work this morning and got pulled at a radar trap in Northern Virginia.

    A motorcycle cop flagged me to pull over, so I did - ha ha.

    "Drivers license, and registration if you have it".

    Yes sir

    "You were doing 60 in a 40"

    Oh my goodness (in an exasperated I am so busted tone)

    "Wait here"

    Yes sir

    "Do you live in Front Royal?

    Yes sir

    His computer is right there in the trunk of his motorcycle and I'm only about 10 feet away. He punches in my info and I clearly hear the computer audibly spit back:

    Felony arrests - negative

    Outstanding warrants - negative

    Concealed Weapons Permit - affirmative

    "Do you have a Concealed Weapons Permit?"

    Yes sir

    At this point I'm sure I'm getting a big ticket or hauled to jail, I mean 20 over the limit can be wreckless driving (actually I think it is 15 over the limit).

    The officer walks back with only my license and registration in hand and not his ticket pad (whoa), and walks around my bike one time.

    "Where is your inspection sticker?"

    On the left side sir.

    He looks at my tag and says "I'm letting you go with a warning, slow it down".

    Yes sir, I definitely will.

    For the next 10 minutes inside my helmet - holy *****, holy *****, holy *****.

    Next time I will hand over my CWP with my license as a courtesy to the officer, I mean I heard the computer tell him I had one, and then he had to ask. Nervous on the first stop, now I know.

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    I did not know that an officer could get info on if someone has or doesn't have a permit...

    My understanding (I could be wrong) is that the Court Clerk who issues the permits does not send that info to the state...

    Am I mis-informed???
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    Close call, usually bike cops will give you a slip of paper for there trouble.
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    Go buy a lottery ticket & send the officer a Christmas card this year.
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    I've had a couple of people tell me (one sheriff, and one State), that when you get pulled over, along with vehicle and license information the computer displays all priors (highlighting those with firearms) and displays if you have a concealed carry permit. Again this is hearsay but i believe it.

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    I think courtesy and honesty go a long way.

    As I was putting my gloves on before starting up and pulling away, I heard the one officer say to another officer about someone he had just pulled who said something like, "I was only doing 30", the officer told his buddy "the guy was doing like 60". I bet THAT guy got a ticket.

    Gotta man up, busted is busted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveJay View Post
    I did not know that an officer could get info on if someone has or doesn't have a permit...

    My understanding (I could be wrong) is that the Court Clerk who issues the permits does not send that info to the state...

    Am I mis-informed???
    I heard it with my own two ears, and I was in a different county then where my permit was issued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveJay View Post


    I did not know that an officer could get info on if someone has or doesn't have a permit...

    My understanding (I could be wrong) is that the Court Clerk who issues the permits does not send that info to the state...

    Am I mis-informed???
    Yes, it goes into the State data base at least here in Virginia it goes into VCIN. Every time I pull someone over and run their license Dispatch lets me know right away if someone has a permit or not.
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    You sure got lucky!

    Yep, 20 over is wreckless driving......only been throgh Virgina once, don't ask how I know, lol....
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    It pays to be courtious and truthful. It's also good to follow the posted speed limit. But I am glad it worked out this time for you but just remember this next time you decide to be in a hurry. It could have turned out totally different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveJay View Post


    I did not know that an officer could get info on if someone has or doesn't have a permit...

    My understanding (I could be wrong) is that the Court Clerk who issues the permits does not send that info to the state...

    Am I mis-informed???
    Yes the State Police maintain a database of all CHPs in VA. Anytime an officer in VA runs your information if you have a CHP it comes up. This system was used by a news paper in VA to place the list of CHP holders online. I can't remember which paper it was but there was a large outcry and they took it down. The legislature then passed a bill to make the VSP database private for law enforcement use only which was signed by the Governor.


    Found it was The Roanoke Times here's a link to a blog about it http://michellemalkin.com/2007/03/13...e-of-sunshine/
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    These "first time pulled over..." posts are running rampant! Does anyone on this forum obey traffic laws?? :)
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    I have often wondered if my state has that info on their computer? I'd think it'd be to the LEO's advantage to know this little bit of info about us, if possible, when they make a traffic stop.

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    But I am glad it worked out this time for you but just remember this next time you decide to be in a hurry. It could have turned out totally different.
    Agree completely. Just remember if you are in a hurry it will likely take up more time to speed and be stopped than it would to just stay close to the posted speed limit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrol View Post
    Yes, it goes into the State data base at least here in Virginia it goes into VCIN. Every time I pull someone over and run their license Dispatch lets me know right away if someone has a permit or not.
    Thanks...I learn something new every day on this site...
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