Traffic Stop with Concealed Carry

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    Traffic Stop with Concealed Carry

    Ok, I know it’s Labor Day weekend and the Texas Department of Public Safety was out in Full Force on IH20 around Weatherford, Texas. Towing a trailer with a 4 wheeler on it heading to the ranch and notice a trooper on the side of the road possible shooting radar. About a mile later I notice he is behind me and I am in the right lane and he moves almost even with me and then backs off, tucks in behind me and lights me up. I did take a look and my speed as I went by and I had the Cruise set at 65, the speed limit so I was't concerned about that. As he came up on the passenger’s side my wife lowers the window and greets him and he does his intro. When he is at the window I remove my wallet so that he see's my hands at all times and the wife hands him the insurance documents about the same time I had him my Drivers license and CHL. He takes a looks and advises me that the reason for the stop was that my trailer safety chains were NOT crosses. Ok you are correct. Sometimes I cross them and sometimes I just twist them to keep them off the pavement. Didn’t know it was law. He hands me my CHL and Insurance and asked the question I was waiting for, “Where is it and where is it located”. I advise him that it is located at my Right Strong side IWB. And that was that. No other discussion about the CC even as I was sitting inside his car receiving the Warning for my chains not being crossed.

    Kinda think he was looking for stolen items such as trailers and 4 wheelers cause he ran all my numbers.

    Conversation was all that. Not the CC or CHL. SHOUT out the Trooper Hunter. You were VERY professional. To all out LEO. Stay safe.
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    Never has been an issue with any LEO's in Texas that I have come in contact with. They have always just thanked me for letting them know.

    I did not know about the chains being crossed either. In fact, one of my small trailers doesn't even have chains.

    Arkansas was ate up with State Troopers along 30 and 40 going to Memphis and back, I set the cruise at 70 and watched all the other idiots contribute to the state revenue.
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    I've never known anybody to cross their chains........
    It could have just been an excuse to pull you over and check your stuff out (you said it seemed he was looking for stolen stuff). At least in my area cops are definitely NOT above lying about why they pulled you over. I've gotten off faaar better by not calling them out on it though.
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    and why did he pull your from your car and put you in his?
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    The chains are supposed to be crossed so if the tongue were to pop off the ball, the chains would catch it before the tongue dug into the pavement. How well it would work is anybody's guess. My trailer came with cables that don't reach far enough to cross, but, evidently, FL LEOs have too much other serious work to worry about trailer chains.
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    He asked that I move the chains. And while in his car he issued me the WARNING for the chains. I looked it up.

    Chains must be equal length. Attach to towing vehicle equidistant right and left of
    point where vehicles are connected. Attach to towed vehicle either side of tongue
    equidistant forward and left of hitch. Connect by means of bolts, pins or secure
    connecting methods meeting strength requirements. Cannot be directly welded.
    They MUST Prevent Tow Bar From Dropping to Ground if Disengaged, IE Crisscross
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    Sounds like a technically legit stop, although I agree, he was probably just checking you out.
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    Glad that it ended well.
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    Good stop and You learned something and so did we. THX.

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    Good encounter, as they all should be.
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    That was a refreshing change from most of the traffic stop posts. Thank you !

    Just as a matter of information most LEO's stopped putting people in their patrol car to write citations years ago. You still see an occassional FHP trooper do it but it goes against most tactical and officer safety training today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tala View Post
    I've never known anybody to cross their chains........
    It could have just been an excuse to pull you over and check your stuff out (you said it seemed he was looking for stolen stuff). At least in my area cops are definitely NOT above lying about why they pulled you over. I've gotten off faaar better by not calling them out on it though.
    I am the opposite, everyone I know crosses the chains, it is just basic common sense in my book. YMMV
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    Never had nothing but good experiences with Texas DPS Troopers (or Texas Parks and Wildlife Game Wardens, for that matter).

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    He didn't cuff you, throw you against the car, and scream "Gun!". Nor did he dismantle your firearm...your your safety and his, and hide the pieces in the trunk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coker737 View Post
    Ok, I know it’s Labor Day weekend and the Texas Department of Public Safety was out in Full Force on IH20 around Weatherford, Texas. Towing a trailer with a 4 wheeler on it heading to the ranch and notice a trooper on the side of the road possible shooting radar. About a mile later I notice he is behind me and I am in the right lane and he moves almost even with me and then backs off, tucks in behind me and lights me up. I did take a look and my speed as I went by and I had the Cruise set at 65, the speed limit so I was't concerned about that. As he came up on the passenger’s side my wife lowers the window and greets him and he does his intro. When he is at the window I remove my wallet so that he see's my hands at all times and the wife hands him the insurance documents about the same time I had him my Drivers license and CHL. He takes a looks and advises me that the reason for the stop was that my trailer safety chains were NOT crosses. Ok you are correct. Sometimes I cross them and sometimes I just twist them to keep them off the pavement. Didn’t know it was law. He hands me my CHL and Insurance and asked the question I was waiting for, “Where is it and where is it located”. I advise him that it is located at my Right Strong side IWB. And that was that. No other discussion about the CC even as I was sitting inside his car receiving the Warning for my chains not being crossed.

    Kinda think he was looking for stolen items such as trailers and 4 wheelers cause he ran all my numbers.

    Conversation was all that. Not the CC or CHL. SHOUT out the Trooper Hunter. You were VERY professional. To all out LEO. Stay safe.
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