This is a discussion on What is it with all the LEO threads? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by farronwolf You assume I won't notice you are following me and pull into a parking lot or something for an unscheduled shopping ...
Hopefully threads about LEO encounters continue to come because for every 1 bad encounter I usually read about there are 10 good encounters that have also been shared. Should people stop sharing the good encounters also? I think you need those for balance.
Anyways... if threads like that bother a person it would seem to make more sense to me to just ignore the thread (hit the back button like others have suggested) and move on to a more enjoyable topic instead of creating a new thread to talk about those threads you don't enjoy reading (but for some reason still read... otherwise how do you explain knowing what is going on in those threads?) It sounds to me like you don't dislike those threads as much as you say you do since you continue to frequent them.
As far as holding ourselves to a higher standard... well all I can say is *I* am no better than anyone else just because I carry a firearm. Just like my mother is no better than anyone else just because she is a christian. You think Christians don't sin? I try to uphold the law the best I can... however I will undoubtedly screw that up at some point and have a LEO encounter of my own. Hopefully through the experiences I have read here and the advice given in those threads my encounter will go as smoothly as most that I have read here.
I remember the wife of a LEO that lived on our street years ago used to speed everyday & was never once stopped even by a speed trap down the street.
As for holding our selves to a high standard I definitely hold my self to a higher standard because I know I will have NO protection if I am forced to shoot someone. I have been carrying since TN made HCPs available. I rarely carry Open just because I prefer Concealed for many reasons. I also have been in some close altercations & didn't shoot anyone because there was no need to. This was my biggest fear when I first started carrying, That I might over react in a tense situation but in the real life scenario I didn't. Also I know I'm not a LEO & will not try to act like I am one.
I am also one of those that truly believes all Government Law enforcement should be held to a higher standard when they cross the thin blue line. I have my reasons for this belief.
As for RESPECT & Professionalism anyone dealing with the general public should at least attempt this.
I doubt there would be many threads about LEOs crossing the lines if they didn't & no matter what a forum boards main subject is there will always be someone start off topic discussions.
I also know not all LEO threads are all true & base all my responses if it was true.
One last thought I don't judge all LEOs based on board topics especially since I have a few for friends & clients.
I know there are a number of LEOs on this forum, but I never thought about what they think about the LEO encounter threads. Do either the good posts or negative posts give them any insight into dealing with people whether they are carrying or not? I'd actually be interested in their perspective. In one manner of speaking, if it helps them with the perspective of the other side (good or bad post) and it has a positive impact on how they approach things, then I'd say the LEO encounter threads may provide a very beneficial purpose. Just wondering, but I apologize if this is just another stupid LEO encounter post.
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As I have posted on this forum in the past my biggest problem with the LEO posts is it is only from the posters perspective that we get the story of the events as they unfolded. I understand that this is how it has to be in this format, I just cannot put a lot of stock in the events as they are supposed to have happened. In other threads there is a common theme that if it's not in the newspaper and link posted it didn't happen. I personally do not like one sided reports of events that cast doubt on someones character. Same goes for a one sided story of a positive interaction as to it's validity. This is the internet where the only person who knows who is on the other end of the screen name is the person on that keyboard. Just my $.02.
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I think there are more LEO threads lately because everybody is burned out on reading zombie & mall ninja threads.
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Farronwolf, you seem to want to hear about good LEO interactions. I have had 2 LEO interactions in the last couple of months. One official and one more casual.
The official encounter occurred when I witnessed an accident in the highway. A girl rearended a SUV and went into the median. There were injuries so I stopped to help. I also called in the wreck. When the cops showed up, I went over and did the required inform and then went into what happened with the wreck. We walked back over to the wreck and he just said thanks for the inform - that was it. It was a total non issue.
The second encounter was at the range. Saturday afternoon and the line was long and slow. I struck up a conversation with the next guy and it became apparent that he was a LEO. We had a nice discussion and he mentioned how much he appreciates CCW citizens. He realizes we are on the same team.
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You mean I don't Have to read every thread?????????
Glad we cleared that up!
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Yes, I can surely see where being awash in a sea of gray brings positive and steadfast resolution..."will someone please cut that anchor line so we get be set adrift?"
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What??? OK, even if I am naive isn't this; lets say, just for the sake of argument, a touch over the top for the average LEO encounter that I think we are all speaking of here?!? I mean really.
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WOW, apparently so...but I guess that's the catalyst that galvanized your response...
With all due respect, am I less entitled to comment on this or any thread for some reason than you or others?
Last edited by jem102; September 11th, 2010 at 05:56 AM.
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Hey at least I know what LEO means now and that there are no Glock revolvers. That's progress.
My .02 cents... then just quit reading them and complaining about them. What makes this thread any better ?
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Wait, there's a procedure for this? Criminy, I miss ALL the good threads!...what do you do with your gun when you go to the crapper.
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