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    Here in Louisiana you are required to ID yourself as a CCW to any LEO you encounter in a official capacity. I just keep my hands on the steering wheel and when the officer walks up to the window I offer him my DL and CCW and let him know right off the bat, "Before we get started, Sir, I'm required to notify you that I'm legally carrying a concealed pistol." Never had a problem with that method. The officer usually just wants you to be up front about it and have never been asked to surrender the gun.


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    Traffic stops to my knownledge do not bring up that you CCW as I have been stopped on the rare occasion and they have asked me if I was carrying, CT is not a duty to inform state but if they ask be honest and be able to show your permit. They usually ask if you have a weapon when getting your information so they would know prior to running you.

    The only thing I suggest to do differently is if you have to go near the gun to get your information (glovebox) notify the LEO that you are carrying and have a permit and show him your permit, DO NOT say you have a gun its the best way I know to be face down roadside at gun point. I carry my wallet on my strong side so if I am pulled over I get my wallet out before the LEO gets to the car, never had an issue.

    As far as an off duty LEO assking you about a bulge I never seen, heard of it happening or had it happen to me. They most likely not be concerned about the person with a bulge if you are not looking like a ragga-muffin like anyone else it could be anything cellphone, pda. If you are printing or he sees it that may be something all together different. If they do not identify him or herself as LEO then as far as I am concerned they are not and don't just ask to see a badge any one can get a badge ask for their LEO photo ID they all have them.

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    Here in Florida you are NOT required to notify the LEO that you are CCW and the information is NOT returned to the officer when he runs a DL or the vehicle plate. The only way he can find out your CCW status is to request a CCW check via computer on the state database. I work in law enforcement and I will always tell the officer up front I am carrying. Officers do not like suprises and I do not like to be suprised by officers pointing glocks at me. No legal advice here just a 20+ year police dispatcher passing on information.
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    LEO seeing bulge...bad guys do not use holsters (generally)

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    Ohio.
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    "I am a Concealed Carry Licenseholder. I am currently carrying. What are your instructions?"
    Present CHL and operator's license together, must have the CHL plus a state issued ID when carrying.
    Follow instructions from that point.
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    Well, nothing really to add. As already stated keeping your hands on the wheel is always a good idea. Too many police officers get injured or killed every year during traffic stops and that makes them nervous, understandably. State law will probably dictate what you have to say to an officer during an official stop. If someone not in uniform approached me and asked for my permit I would ask for a badge or some other form of ID first. There is a separate thread on this around here somewhere.

    Oh, and I went out and bought one of those visor things to put my registration and insurance paperwork in. That way I don't have to be messing around in the glove box. Just something to keep myself in plain sight and any police officer less nervous. (Besides in Ohio if you want to avoid any hastles with the stupid plain sight rule you have to have your handgun locked up and the glove box is one place you can do that.)
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    #1 depends on your state. Some link your status with the license plate some don't. There are pros and cons with that.
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    The Minnesota handgun carry permit requires the holder to present the laminated permit as well as a governmental photo ID, i.e. Drivers License, when asked by law enforcement. The officer may ask you to sign your name to verify your identity. Make sure your ID and Permit Card are easily accessible without flashing your weapon when you retrieve them.

    During a routine traffic stop, acknowledge your intention to stop, find a safe place to stop in a well lit area so you can assure the safety of and positively identify the officer. Turn your dome light on. Do not leave your vehicle or make any sudden movements, but keep both hands on the steering wheel with your driver's license, proof of insurance and registration if required, and carry permit if you are carrying. Stay calm, polite, and cooperative. If you are carrying, let the officer know where your weapon is located before he or she gets a glimpse of a gun anywhere in the car. Let the officer decide how and where the rest of the interview should proceed according to his comfort level. Otherwise, his training could make things extremely uncomfortable for you.
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    In Michigan, I must tell the Officer that I have a CCW and whether or not I am armed or if there is a weapon anywhere in the car. As a matter of common sense, if stopped, I would place my holstered pistol on the dash and have the neccessary documents in hand. LEOs are in a high stress situation when they pull a stranger over, especially here because the DMV check on my license plate number will show that I am licensed to carry.

    As a lawyer, I am well aware of my "rights", but think that anticipating an LE related problem and dealing with it up front makes sense.

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    We're required to tell the LEO that we have a CCW permit if we have interaction with said LEO. Obviously, a traffic stop is interaction. We were instricted during our CCW course to pull over, drop the window half way, turn the dome light on, and sit with our hands on the wheel. Once the LEO gets to the car, inform him immediately that we are CCW permit holder and if we have a weapon or not and where. The LEO will already know if we have the CCW permit because our tags/DL are linked to the CCW. Even if we didn't have to tell, I would as a common courtesy.

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    In California there is nothing that the officer can bring up by running your plates that tells him you are a CCW holder. In CA we are not required to tell the officer that we are carrying.
    George Washington: "A free people ought to be armed."

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    While not required I tell the officers anyways.

    I got pulled over just yesterday. I was picking my wife up at the hospital because she was just discharged. I received the call to pick her up when I was just around the corner. I answered the cell phone due to the fact that she was in the hospital for chest pains and numbness in the extremities. I had trouble getting to the cell phone and swerved ever so slightly out of my lane.

    The officer pulled me over as I entered the hospital parking lot. Here is how the conversation went.

    I kept my hands on the steering wheel.

    "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

    "Yes, I was a bit irratic back there" and told him my situation.

    I then informed him about being a CCW holder.

    He asked where the gun was.

    I said in the front of my right hip.

    He said he was going to give me a break this time but to be more careful.

    I thanked him, said that I would, and wished him a good day.

    Honesty and respect goes a long way. I train with guys like this guy all of the time. I am very comfortable with them and have found them to be (as a whole) an outstanding group of individules.

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    Sorry to hear it, Roger. I hope your better half is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunthorp
    Sorry to hear it, Roger. I hope your better half is better.
    Gardner
    Thank you sir, at this point all is well. All of the major problems have been ruled out. We are waiting for a result of a MRI for isssues that may be more difficult to find.

    I appreciate the thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jongle
    1:In Michigan, I must tell the Officer that I have a CCW and whether or not I am armed or if there is a weapon anywhere in the car.

    2:As a matter of common sense, if stopped, I would place my holstered pistol on the dash and have the neccessary documents in hand.
    Um, you only have to inform if you have a CPL AND are carrying a pistol. If you are not armed or simply have a longgun in the vehicle it is not required to inform the officer. Show me where it says I have to inform the officer if ANY firearm is in my vehicle, please. You stated you were a lawyer, so this shouldn't be much trouble. Curious, as this is the first time I have heard of this.

    2:That, IMO, is one of the worst things you can do. Do not touch your weapon unless the officer tells you to and then follow his/her instructions to the letter. You start fumbling around with stuff in the car, I expect the officer's gun to be out and trained on you with commands to follow shortly.
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