Safely chamber a round, and "safe" a firearm

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    Safely chamber a round, and "safe" a firearm

    I have been reading about the remington accidental discharge problem, I have heard of other weapons having similiar problems with stuck firing pins firing multiple rounds. I have up to 5 kids in my house and loading my guns is usually done in the bedroom of a 2 story house, and I usually aim the gun at the bed when chambering a round. If a round were to go through the floor, or a wall it could be devestating.

    I would like to have a can of some sort full of sand or some other media to stop the bullet should there be an AD. What do others use? Has anyone else found something like this?

    TIA

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    There are commercially made "clearing station" units available from places like Galls, but they are expensive. A five gallon bucket from Home Depot filled with sand would probably be adequate for typical pistol rounds.
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    Or a stack of old magazines.
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    It could be as simple as a 5 gal. pail filled with sand. Even most rifle bullets will only penetrate 4-6".

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    My safe load/unload 'target' is a stack of magazines near the bed, and a stack of old phone books next to the bench in the garage.
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    At my house I have three solutions toward this:

    * Earth just outside my patio door
    Most commonly this is where I go to load and unload, to make 'Hot' (Condition 1) or 'Cold' (emptied).

    * Safe Direction brand 'Ballistic Pad' gun bag
    I use this when teaching new shooter basic courses. As well I regularly use it as a transport bag for my bullseye setup .22 (it's lockable).
    http://www.safedirection.com/ballisticcontainment.html
    http://www.policemag.com/Videos/Chan...ing-Safer.aspx [Video of product being fired upon]

    * A bucket of sand or some other high density media [Some say kitty litter works too but I'm not advising that]
    My town PD follow this method at their internal _mandatory_ weekly duty firearm maintenance station.
    They have a large 50 gal plastic drum setup that has been filled approx 80% with coarse grain sand (Like what you would expect to see at most any ocean border beach...Not the super fine stuff you see at childrens playgrounds).
    This drum is set at an angle (approx. 30 degrees of center) inside of a large and immovable wooden 2x4 constructed base and support frame. At the back side of the drum is a steel plate of some depth...I'd guess it to be 1/2 inch but I did not ask about it specifically as it really is superfluous.
    This assembly will support most any length longgun as well as very easily handguns. Just stick the barrel into the barrel and touch the trigger.

    At my own home I have long had it simplified to just a 5 gallon/paint bucket filled to ~ 90% with again coarse grain sand (Home Depot has this by the bag for cheap). Place that on to either earth outside or a concrete floor pad such as in your basement or garage. Project completed.
    Any discharge made into that sand will retard and stop the projectile(s) within inches. You of course still have the issue of the report...But the projectile itself is stopped.

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    I use two of the above. The sand bucket is good but not very decorative in the bedroom where many folks load/unload. I have a bookshelf along one wall set so that by standing next to the wall I can point my gun toward the narrow end of the shelf. Thereby giving any offending discharge approximately four feet of densely packed paper and wood to spend its energy upon.

    I should say that I usually just use a bucket of sand in the walk-in closet. It would be loud, but not fatal. And I don't have listen to my interior decorator about the bucket in the bedroom.
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    No more often than I have to do that, it is always outdoors. Years ago we had a barrel about 2 feet long, sitting on an angle and filled with sand for clearing weapons. The barrel had a lid with a 6 inch hole in the middle and the sand was about 6 inches below the lid.
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    Most beds won't stop a bullet (a waterbed will, once...) Books and magazines tightly packed will stop about anything. I use strategically placed bookshelves to protect my kid's rooms in my split plan house. You can also find old panels of body armor at various places online for cheap. A panel of II-A will stop most SD rounds from a handgun and can be had for around $20.

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    Since I do my unloading upstairs, I just point it in a direction not pointing toward next door neighbors or downward since there is no one present dowstairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nlghthawk View Post
    I have been reading about the remington accidental discharge problem, I have heard of other weapons having similiar problems with stuck firing pins firing multiple rounds. I have up to 5 kids in my house and loading my guns is usually done in the bedroom of a 2 story house, and I usually aim the gun at the bed when chambering a round. If a round were to go through the floor, or a wall it could be devestating.

    I would like to have a can of some sort full of sand or some other media to stop the bullet should there be an AD. What do others use? Has anyone else found something like this?

    TIA
    Get an orange 5 gallon bucket at home depot, 2 bags of play sand, put sand in,put bucket in corner of garage directly opposed to house, good luck.
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    I'd get some dummy rounds to practice the routine several times.
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