Make sure your gun's where it should be

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    Make sure your gun's where it should be

    Don't verbally abuse me over this - I've learned my lesson. I carry a small framed .380 in an IWB Blackhawk holster, one of the nylon jobs w/ no retention. It's comfortable and it was inexpensive. I drove to a store in another town in my little MGB with the top down because the day was really nice. Got out of the car and ran into the store. I've gotten into the habit of not checking and feeling for my gun because of the posts I've read in this forum. (I'm relatively new to cc.) However, once in the store, I guess I did put my elbow against my side just to make sure everything's in place. My elbow hits my hip - no gun. I figure it slid out of the holster in the long ride to the other town and slipped between the seat and the console. Knowing I'd be in the store for only 2 or 3 minutes, I decided not to run to the car. But my inside voice said, "Hey, stupid, you've got a loaded gun somewhere near the front seat of an attention grabbing, convertable sports car. Go see where your gun is!!!!!!" Well, I listened to my inner voice and walked really fast out to the car. And there, laying right in the middle of the drivers seat is my gun. Anyone walking near the car could have seen it and wouldn't even have to break in to get it. Lesson learned - and it is this: don't get in the habit of always feeling for your gun, BUT - when things change (getting out of the car, bumping into someone or something, having to move in such a way that your gun may loosen - it's ok to make a quick check. This may not affect those who deep conceal, but might be a lesson for some. For now, saving my money for a better retention type holster.

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    Lessons learned at virtually no cost but mental discomfort are cheap indeed.
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    Lesson learned and thanks for sharing. I is hard to admit to doing something dumb.

    Of course, there will be lots of folks who will say they have never done a stupid thing in their lives.

    When I get out of my car I alway adjust my clothes anyway, so I do a quick pat check and all is good. Be casual and be confident in your actions and you will not draw any undue attention. It is those furtive movements that catch the eye.

    Just my $0.02 worth. Good luck!
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    I am not trying to bash...
    but you might want to find a new holster if it can fall out....
    I know being new to CC there is some trial and error... but just something you might want to look at.

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    Lesson learned: buy a new pocket holster. I suggest you try a Desantis Nemesis that has the rubber backing to prevent the holster and the gun from sliding out.

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    I always check to make sure everything is in place whenever I get out of my vehicle. Mainly when working, I always check to make sure my shirt is tucked nicely ( I carry in a Crossbreed ) I stand with my gun side toward my work van and very discretely run my hands around my entire waist just to check. I always know that everything is there and concealed.

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    Because of how my holster fits, I always have to adjust a bit when I get out of the car. To the OP: You drive an MG? Nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revdej View Post
    Don't verbally abuse me over this - I've learned my lesson. I carry a small framed .380 in an IWB Blackhawk holster, one of the nylon jobs w/ no retention. It's comfortable and it was inexpensive. I drove to a store in another town in my little MGB with the top down because the day was really nice. Got out of the car and ran into the store. I've gotten into the habit of not checking and feeling for my gun because of the posts I've read in this forum. (I'm relatively new to cc.) However, once in the store, I guess I did put my elbow against my side just to make sure everything's in place. My elbow hits my hip - no gun. I figure it slid out of the holster in the long ride to the other town and slipped between the seat and the console. Knowing I'd be in the store for only 2 or 3 minutes, I decided not to run to the car. But my inside voice said, "Hey, stupid, you've got a loaded gun somewhere near the front seat of an attention grabbing, convertable sports car. Go see where your gun is!!!!!!" Well, I listened to my inner voice and walked really fast out to the car. And there, laying right in the middle of the drivers seat is my gun. Anyone walking near the car could have seen it and wouldn't even have to break in to get it. Lesson learned - and it is this: don't get in the habit of always feeling for your gun, BUT - when things change (getting out of the car, bumping into someone or something, having to move in such a way that your gun may loosen - it's ok to make a quick check. This may not affect those who deep conceal, but might be a lesson for some. For now, saving my money for a better retention type holster.
    Here's another lesson that you should have learned from this, don't use a cheap holster with no retention at all. Had you been using a quality holster that was fitted to the gun, it would not have just slipped out and been sitting open to the world to have been stolen or picked up by a teenage walking by your car in public.

    Don't spend hundreds on a gun and then carry it in a $20 holster. Spen enough on your holster that it does the job a holster is supposed to do, safely and securely retain your gun.
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    Thanks for sharing. Scary.

    Get rid of that holster NOW. I had one, the thing came out and fell on the bathroom floor. I put it in the TRASH after that, it was a wakeup call.

    Again, thank you, reading about real life stuff like this is always educational and reinforces 110% effort on firearms safety.

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    Thanks for sharing. Its reminders like this that help the rest of us stay sharp and to remember the basics. Glad it didnt cost you anything.

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    I hate it when I have to learn the hard way!

    Good reminders!
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    It is always OK to check and feel for your gun. Just make it look like you're pulling your pants up or tucking your shirt in.

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    As others have said - you pay for your permit, training, and a nice handgun. Don't go all cheap on a holster.

    That said, I made a mistake this week as well. I had to disarm to go into a hospital, so before I had the valet take my car, I locked my Glock in my COM safe under the front seat. After I was in the hospital, I realized I had left the key to the safe on my key ring that was now in the valet shack. I ran back down, and asked to see my key ring. I sized up the kid who took my car, and didn't see anything out of the ordinary, so I just took the key off the ring. Lesson learned.

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    I always do a quick elbow check, not so much because I am afraid the G19 will fall out of the holster (it won't) but just because things shift around while sitting sometimes
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    I fully expected this to end "I got out to my car and the gun was gone. So who has the best price on a new one." Glad it didn't work out that way though.

    I agree with Guantes, whenever you can learn from your mistakes without any more cost than the pain of kicking yourself over and over for being so dumb, its a win. I've certainly endured a fair amount of mental discomfort over mistakes I have made, but at least I'm a lot less likely to do the same thing again.

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