This is a discussion on Texas State University Student Senate Votes to Allow Concealed Carry on Campus within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; The Texas State University Student Senate has voted to support legislation pending in the Texas Legislature to allow students to carry concealed on campus. It ...
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The Texas State University Student Senate has voted to support legislation pending in the Texas Legislature to allow students to carry concealed on campus.
It is beginning to look like this bill has a very good chance of passing.
Here is a news report about this development:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh2ZnyjnMlA
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Very nice! This will be good news for Oklahoma as our laws tend to go hand-in-hand.
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How big us TSU compared to some of the other UT system universities?
Glad to see they have taken an interest. Hopefully many schools will follow. I'm pretty sure UT will campaign against it, being it's in the only truly liberal democrat city in Texas...
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i hope ohio is paying attention. this seems to be happening alot around that campus.
Student robbed of laptop, cash near UA
By Beacon Journal staff
POSTED: 12:34 p.m. EST, Dec 01, 2010
An 18-year-old student told police that he was robbed Tuesday near the University of Akron campus by two men who took his backpack containing a cell phone, laptop computer and books.
The robbery occurred at about 4 p.m. near Allyn and East Exchange streets on the south end of the UA campus.
The suspects have not been caught.
The victim told police that the men threatened to kill him if he did not surrender his wallet. The man did and the robbers then took $50 before tossing the wallet back at the man. They fled with the cash and backpack.
Police said the suspects are two black males, 18 to 22 years old. One wears dreadlocks and stands about 6-foot-1 and weighs about 170 pounds. The second suspect is a bit shorter and wore a black-hooded sweatshirt and black jeans.
Anyone with information is asked to call Akron police detectives at 330-375-2490. Anonymous tips can be made at http://ci.akron.oh.us/ASP/tip.html.
An 18-year-old student told police that he was robbed Tuesday near the University of Akron campus by two men who took his backpack containing a cell phone, laptop computer and books.
The robbery occurred at about 4 p.m. near Allyn and East Exchange streets on the south end of the UA campus.
The suspects have not been caught.
The victim told police that the men threatened to kill him if he did not surrender his wallet. The man did and the robbers then took $50 before tossing the wallet back at the man. They fled with the cash and backpack.
Police said the suspects are two black males, 18 to 22 years old. One wears dreadlocks and stands about 6-foot-1 and weighs about 170 pounds. The second suspect is a bit shorter and wore a black-hooded sweatshirt and black jeans.
Anyone with information is asked to call Akron police detectives at 330-375-2490. Anonymous tips can be made at http://ci.akron.oh.us/ASP/tip.html.
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I am surprised!
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That's good for Texas State University Student Senate BUT........how does that influence Texas legislators to change the current law? Also, is this bill simply de-criminalizing carry on campus, or a UT-like bill SPECIFICALLY allowing it?
I'm afraid even if it's de-criminalized, the progressives in the university systems will expel anyone caught carrying. Outside of UT, only a select few colleges allow carry at all by its students.
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It should specifically allow it, at least at universities which receive state funds. Private university campuses would be decriminalized, so administrative penalties could still apply. Of course, I am just speculating based on the few places with campus carry.
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Umm, if I am reading this right, the BG never presented a weapon, never attacked the victim. They did rob him, strongarm, and there is desparity of force, however, the victim complied and noone was hurt.Originally Posted by dgreen
Sounds like a good ending to a bad situation. Don't get me wrong, I think that the Vic should have been allowed to carry a firearm, I think everyone should WITH PROPER TRAINING AND EDUCATION, but if he had shot these 2 and they had been unarmed, he would be facing jail time, and the end of his collegate career.
I see nothing in this story, with the exception of words, that placed the Vic in a position where lethal force would be acceptable. AGAIN, I DO THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO CARRY.
If he had a firearm, or if there was the known potential that he might, the whole situation could have been avoided because the target is no longer worth the risk. $50 aint worth a life after all.
So, the poilcy helped to provide the opportunity to the BG. That can change, but taking a life for a robery of a few dollars is not the answer, proper training, education (I separate the two as I view training as the functional aspect of the firearm and the education as the sharing of knowlege for when it is appropriate to use it) and policy are.
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Laptops are a frequent target of criminals on campus. Really upsetting to the students affected too. For laptops are now a necessity in college, and students basically have all of their school work stored on them. So losing a laptop is an absolute disaster for any student.
We had a case early this year of a student at the University of Oregon stealing not one but two laptops from fellow students. The most shocking aspect of the case was that he was the star quarterback of the Oregon Ducks football team. There were eyewitnesses of him leaving the scene of the burglary with the laptops. He made up an alibi to pretend that he was someplace else, but police were able to produce video surveillance evidence that he left the bar long before he said that he did.
Though convicted of burglary, the team actually kept him on, and only suspended him for a couple of games. However, a few weeks later, he was stopped by police while driving erratically. He had no license, as it had been suspended earlier. And police found drugs in the car. The University then finally booted him off the team.
This season, he is now the first string quarterback for Ole Miss.
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Here at the University of Oregon, there is a ZERO TOLERANCE policy regarding firearms.
Possession of a paintball gun or toy water pistol are also strictly banned. Shooting or aiming at someone with a water pistol are actually grounds for expulsion.
The laptop was worth way more than $50. And when students have them stolen, their entire work for that semester can be threatened.
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Go Texas...finish this business and you'll have a very good CCW package for your state residence.
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My older son's fiance goes to school there. Excellent!!
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Texas A&M Galveston student council just followed suit.
Hopefully campus carry and the parking lot bill get through the State Legislature this year. Prayers our way!!!
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