This is a discussion on What most will fail to recognize within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Barbary What I find interesting is how the media has focused mainly on the politicians/officials who were injured or killed. The private ...
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This so true. luckily the congresswoman is still alive but she is high profile, so the media makes it out to be that it happened to her. I hope they take notice to the fact that the guy who help tackle the shooter is a CCW holder.Originally Posted by Barbary
Finally something we agree upon. No such legislation will get past The House with its present makeup. No such legislation can get past the Senate. And no such legislation would be signed by O, even if he liked it, ahead of an election.
Nothing is going to happen at the Federal level.
I'd however not be surprised if some states, maybe even AZ, reconsider magazine capacity.
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Va Tech shooting..... McCarthy frothed at the mouth.... nothing happened......
One side of that might be privacy concerns. I've been seeing the "six dead" statistic a lot, and the father of that 9 year old girl was interviewed, but I think a lot of it's being left alone in deference to the families' privacy. The Federal Judge and the Congresswoman were public figures. Also, there is a lot more info available about them.
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They really don't waste any time
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/01/...islation-floor
The extended magazine on the Glock 19 Loughner used was illegal under the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. Gun control advocates hope the tragedy might provoke fresh discussion on the ban, and on the ability to buy weapons that appear designed for mass murder. "He had an additional magazine capability. That’s not what a hunter needs," Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.) told Politico. "That’s not what someone needs to defend their home. That’s what you use to hunt people."
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As soon as Mike Quigly recognizes they are used to hunt people and atempts to disarm every LE agency in America as well using hicap mags then his stance will not be hypocritical. After all Police have weapons to defend themselves not hunt people, right Mike?
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Well done! Contratulations on the new Glock. Glad you decided to forget the 33 round magazines. The stock G19 with standard 15 round magazines is a reliable as gravity, accurate, low maintainance, easy to live with, concealable carry gun that will eat any commercial ammo you can buy over the counter and which is a piece of cake to reload for.
It's concealable even on a 5'-8" 170 lb little old man (me <G>). The reason I c arry my 26 more than the 19 is it's more comfortable to sit in a car with the 26 at 4:30 than the 19 because of the shorter grip.
I don't see any use for 33 round magazines for any anticipated civillian CCW or HD use. If you are up against a terrorist with a 33 round mag, wait them out then go for them when they reload. They are also harder to retain because they are so long there is room for two hands on them - possibly why the lady was able to wrestle the magazine away from the AZ shooter. If wrestling with a guy for a gun that has one of them you can get a two handed pile driver grip on it, barrel and magazine, which should make retaining the gun a lot harder for the bad guy.
The 33 round mags were developed for the full-auto Glock 18 machine pistol which is itself about equally useless as a civillian CCW.
I'm fortunate, my bride only likes revolvers so my semi's are safe. She's really propriatary about her revolvers though! Works for me.
BTW: I pack both my 26 and 19 in the same CrossBreed SuperTuck. Work real fine, last long time.
Again, congrats on the new 19. Ur gonna like it a lot. If "she" adopts it, just get another one. 'bout impossible to have too many Glocks.
Fitch
If I had a Glock, I'd probably have a couple of 33 rounders . . . but only for range work. I hate reloading mags at the range :)
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Well done! Contratulations on the new Glock. Glad you decided to forget the 33 round magazines. The stock G19 with standard 15 round magazines is a reliable as gravity, accurate, low maintainance, easy to live with, concealable carry gun that will eat any commercial ammo you can buy over the counter and which is a piece of cake to reload for.
It's concealable even on a 5'-8" 170 lb little old man (me <G>). The reason I c arry my 26 more than the 19 is it's more comfortable to sit in a car with the 26 at 4:30 than the 19 because of the shorter grip.
I don't see any use for 33 round magazines for any anticipated civillian CCW or HD use. If you are up against a terrorist with a 33 round mag, wait them out then go for them when they reload. They are also harder to retain because they are so long there is room for two hands on them - possibly why the lady was able to wrestle the magazine away from the AZ shooter. If wrestling with a guy for a gun that has one of them you can get a two handed pile driver grip on it, barrel and magazine, which should make retaining the gun a lot harder for the bad guy.
The 33 round mags were developed for the full-auto Glock 18 machine pistol which is itself about equally useless as a civillian CCW.
I'm fortunate, my bride only likes revolvers so my semi's are safe. She's really propriatary about her revolvers though! Works for me.
BTW: I pack both my 26 and 19 in the same CrossBreed SuperTuck. Work real fine, last long time.
Again, congrats on the new 19. Ur gonna like it a lot. If "she" adopts it, just get another one. 'bout impossible to have too many Glocks.
Fitch
Some people don't see any use for people to own handguns..... your thoughts are on the same line of thinking as their thoughts. Why do you even own a firearm?
And you just found the big disadvantage to 'our' side in the Gun Control/Rights debate. We're too easily splintered. That's why I pointed out that I could see a use for a 33rnd mag. Maybe I can't see a use for a gatling gun, but I will still loudly defend the right to own one. We need to stick together.
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They won't stop at 33 rounds. They will define high capacity as > 10 rounds and all my 9mm magazines are > 10 rounds. IMO if somebody wants to own 1,000 round magazine they can. I reserve my right to make fun of them, but I'll never stop them from owning one.
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I agree and I am seeing some real disturbing comments from "firearm owners" on this website.
You see that a lot. . . a lot of hunters don't like rifles like my AR platforms, skeet shooters and waterfowl hunters don't like high-cap tactical shotguns, 1911 die-hards don't like high-cap tupperpistols, revolver shooters don't think there's a reason to own a semi-auto at all. Not as much here, but you do see it regularly.
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Don't be so sad. Show her the Glock 26 (Baby Glock), and she will allow you to keep the G19.Well I'm back from the lgs, spent more than i wanted to but oh well, picked up a gen4 G-19 with 4 standard glock hi-cap mags, the more i thought about it the extended mads don't make sense, plus the shop only had the import mags so that totally made up my mind. Then I noticed, dare I say it,......... a G-20, also picked up 2 spare mag for that gun and a case of range ammo for each and a few boxes of gold dots. Now it's time to look for holsters. oh by the way, I love my wife, she was on board with my purchases, which now leads me to believe that I may be loosing the 19
Now you will have two really dependable pistols.
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You might consider using a 33 rd mag while at home or in any self defense situation where you are making a stand with short notice. It certainly works well when you might be outnumbered. I also would not use it concealed, but it is great in a bedside cabinet.
Capt. Art
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