This is a discussion on SC right to Carry reform bill introduced! within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by phreddy SECTION 16-11-440. Presumption of reasonable fear of imminent peril when using deadly force against another unlawfully entering residence, occupied vehicle or ...
Ok if your home gets broken into your good. If you get Carjacked your good. Your store being robbed your good. However, walking to your car or out abroad your not. I'm sorry I did not add the two other category's.Does SC have Immunity from Civil Liability laws.....
Good to hear about South Carolina possibly recognizing all other CC permits. Recognition of CO permits in SC is the only requirement for CO to recognize SC permits of SC residents, by the way.
The whole "alcohol and guns don't mix" mantra, to me, is very similar to the arguments heard just before a state goes shall-issue. "Blood will flow in the streets. CCers will kill each other over parking spaces." In Colorado, for instance, carrying under the influence is a crime, but there are no other statutes prohibiting concealed carry in alcohol-serving venues---and I have never seen a report of a drunken CCer shooting up any bar in this state. (No, I have never frequented bars, before or after becoming a carrier of concealed pistols, and I never drink alcohol in public.)
Humm... Well call me a dufus... After reading I will admit I'm wrong but, why didn't the law makers rewrite 16-11-440 to inject 16-11-450? Is this new bill going to make more off shoot sections or make an iron clad doctrine we can fallow. Is this where contacting my local representative comes into play???
Well I certainly hope for passage but I believe the biggest obstacle will be honoring other states. S.L.E.D. is not fond of states that require no training.
Now a smaller version of my usual rant. Whoever posted the alcohol provision missed an important word. Between convicted of and carrying there is the word UNLAWFULLY! So nowhere does it mention carry in establishments serving alcohol in the usual list of restrictions. That restriction comes from the codicil that "these restrictions do not incorporate any previous restriction which would still be valid. Therefore if the carrying in an establishment that serves alcohol is NOT initially listed then subsequently you can not be UNLAWFULLY carrying because there is not limit to this on your permit. A few years ago someone made the mistake of asking the Attorney general for his opinion and he said it means "no carry in places seving alcohol" You should not ask questions like that unless you know the answer.
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This bill rocks, and I just emailed my senator to push for support!
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I'm familiar with a couple of the agents that do the background checks on applicants; and they are definitely PRO conceal carry. Although I have heard of the concerns mentioned, I think most SLED agents view some of the requirements as too restrictive.
The past few heads of SLED have been anti-gun. I'm not sure about the current head, though. Just like most other police forces and organizations, the general attitude among the troops is pro-carry.
The problem is the typical candidate that gets "appointed" to the head spots of these law organizations is statistically anti-carry. Hopefully, some progress gets made to get SC to reciprocate with a lot of other states since Haley is now Governor.
Just went to Rep. Pitts web site and sent off email urging the passage of this legislation. I have AL resident and FL non-resdent CCP and neither is honored by S.C. That alone keeps me from visiting and spending my money in places like Charleston (dying to go there) and Myrtle Beach. Appeal to their pocketbooks and results are more likely to go our way.
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Lets get something done this year!!!! I am excited.