medical marijuana and concealed handgun permit

This is a discussion on medical marijuana and concealed handgun permit within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Came across this article the other day. Thought it was interesting...what do you guys think? Should they have the same rights as us or should ...

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    medical marijuana and concealed handgun permit

    Came across this article the other day. Thought it was interesting...what do you guys think? Should they have the same rights as us or should they be denied?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...un_permit.html
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    Slow computer and bad dial-up hampers my going to links, but my opinion is--under the influence precludes carrying of firearms.

    I would not want someone who is drinking to have a gun, nor would I want someone smoking marijuana to have one either. Having said that, drinking itself does not prohibit possession of firearms, nor should use of MJ for medical purposes. There's a time to carry and a time not to. We have to be responsible about it ... and that's where the problems will arise. Some people just aren't.
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    Instead of denying a person from getting a permit due to drug use, it should specify illegal drug use. Technically alcohol is a drug, and most of us have or do drink alcohol. If you have a medical marijuana card, the drug is now legal, just like alcohol, or any over the counter pain killer. Honestly, I don't see why it's such a big deal. I don't smoke, and I don't drink very often. I think alcohol is a much more dangerous and serious issue than marijuana anyway.

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    Interesting...

    Here in CO, a gun-rights group called RMGO states those with medical marijuana cards cannot get a carry permit, nor can they buy a gun from an FFL. Interesting take.

    http://www.rmgo.org/gun-law-faqs/alc...s-prohibitions

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKM View Post
    Instead of denying a person from getting a permit due to drug use, it should specify illegal drug use. Technically alcohol is a drug, and most of us have or do drink alcohol. If you have a medical marijuana card, the drug is now legal, just like alcohol, or any over the counter pain killer. Honestly, I don't see why it's such a big deal. I don't smoke, and I don't drink very often. I think alcohol is a much more dangerous and serious issue than marijuana anyway.
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    ^ditto
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    I have no problem with them owning guns or having a permit. But you cannot carry a gun when you are under the influence of anything, legal or illegal. Same goes with driving while under the influence.

    There's tons of people taking legal drugs that have warnings about driving or operating machinery. They can't drive or operate machinery at work even though it's legal for them to take these controlled substances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKM View Post
    Instead of denying a person from getting a permit due to drug use, it should specify illegal drug use. Technically alcohol is a drug, and most of us have or do drink alcohol. If you have a medical marijuana card, the drug is now legal, just like alcohol, or any over the counter pain killer. Honestly, I don't see why it's such a big deal. I don't smoke, and I don't drink very often. I think alcohol is a much more dangerous and serious issue than marijuana anyway.
    +1.

    I'll just say it.

    The only way I've ever seen someone's life get messed up from pot is when they got caught.

    Nowhere near the same as alcohol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RKM View Post
    Instead of denying a person from getting a permit due to drug use, it should specify illegal drug use. Technically alcohol is a drug, and most of us have or do drink alcohol. If you have a medical marijuana card, the drug is now legal, just like alcohol, or any over the counter pain killer. Honestly, I don't see why it's such a big deal. I don't smoke, and I don't drink very often. I think alcohol is a much more dangerous and serious issue than marijuana anyway.
    I gotta agree on this. You have to wonder just how many people are walking around the local mall right now carrying while buzzing on vicodin. Should someone with chronic <no pun intended> back pain and a scrpt for vicodin be excluded as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftofMars View Post
    Should someone with chronic <no pun intended> back pain and a scrpt for vicodin be excluded as well?
    Yes, they cannot drive or carry a gun while under the influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tessa View Post
    Yes, they cannot drive or carry a gun while under the influence.
    So should they be denied the permit because they have the script or take the drug, or only while they take the drug? If you have a permit and get a script for a narcotic should you turn your permit in to the local police until it's gone? I'm just asking, where would it stop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tessa View Post
    I have no problem with them owning guns or having a permit. But you cannot carry a gun when you are under the influence of anything, legal or illegal. Same goes with driving while under the influence.

    There's tons of people taking legal drugs that have warnings about driving or operating machinery. They can't drive or operate machinery at work even though it's legal for them to take these controlled substances.
    I'm with this sentiment. I think a person should be able to have guns and a permit but not carry a gun WHILE they are buzzed up on Mary Jane, alcohol, prescription drugs, etc. Impaired judgement and motor skills while high on any of those aforementioned items is not a good mix with guns IMO.
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    Now, let me start by saying, I don't agree with being under the influence of anything and being in control of a firearm, HOWEVER, I have found, especially here in the retirement capital of the eastern united states, there are few drivers on the road who are currently prescribed drugs that are more impairing than alcohol.

    So, everyone who has at least once tried Marjuana, take a moment to ponder, and those who haven't you can follow along too, how able to drive (as an example of higher motorfunction and coordination) are you after consuming 3 beers in an hour (not a terribly far fetched propect). Now, from experience, I can tell you that although there is a level of impairment with marijuana, it is nowhere near that of 3 alcoholic beverages, and though I do not condone, nor wish to interact with in any way, a person under the influence and in posession of a firearm, I would much prefer it be a person who has legally ingested marijuana, than one who has been drinking (which is completely legal to drink in all 50 states).

    Sorry, had to rant there a bit, now, go ahead, I've opened my mouth, let the flaming begin.
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    If someone NEEDS a script for 'M' to make chemo therapy bearable...so be it. No different than needing painkillers for surgery, back pain, etc.
    I'm not talking about anyone who runs to a doctor to get a script to have some 'joints' around the house.
    A true medical need should not, IMHO, disallow an individual the right to defend himself/herself any time, any place.
    Obviously, there must be some control of when and where the script is used and mixed with a firearm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tessa View Post
    I have no problem with them owning guns or having a permit. But you cannot carry a gun when you are under the influence of anything, legal or illegal. Same goes with driving while under the influence.

    There's tons of people taking legal drugs that have warnings about driving or operating machinery. They can't drive or operate machinery at work even though it's legal for them to take these controlled substances.
    If you read the warning labels on the prescriptions, they only warn people not to drive or operate heavy machinery, until they know how they react to the medicine. Whomever you work for doesn't allow it for legal liability reasons.
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