Another reason not to carry past those signs
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January 23rd, 2011 09:44 PM
Another reason not to carry past those signs
Going for a meeting at ridgeview mental health facility in oakridge tn today, I see a sign on the door that forbids weapons. The sign does not meet TN law to legitimately prohibit cc. Not even the new law that makes the circle and slash gun-buster sing legit.
But my personal rule is that if the ownership makes it clear that they don't want weapons inside, I don't carry past the sign. I either disarm or don't go in. I did not think that I was going inside of the secure area of the facility. I went back to the truck and put my fire arm under the seat lock up and went inside.
Then we (my son and I) were escorted to the secure area! Had to empty pockets and undergo a wand scan. So, took of the iwb holster with the metal clips, 2 loaded magazines . . .
My son sad "You brought a firearm to a Nut house"! I replied: "No, firearm is in the truck"! He then said: "But you brought ammunition"! The very nice tech who was taking us through security said: " which is absolutely harmless without the firearm"!
Any way, had the meeting retrieved holster, 2 loaded magazines, cell phone . . .
No eyebrows raised. If I had walked past the sign at the front door, it still would not have been a problem. When I realized I was going into the secure area, I would simply have said I need to go back to my truck. Worst case (and a long stretch) they would have got suspicious and called the police who would have told them to fix their sign? Or, maybe I would have to get a lawyer to defend my decision to carry past the front door?
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January 23rd, 2011 10:26 PM
I think you made a good choice!
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January 23rd, 2011 10:29 PM
I bet that raised a few eyebrows.
My son sad "You brought a firearm to a Nut
"He went on two legs, wore clothes and was a human being, but nevertheless he was in reality a wolf of the Steppes. He had learned a good deal . . . and was a fairly clever fellow. What he had not learned, however, was this: to find contentment in himself and his own life. The cause of this apparently was that at the bottom of his heart he knew all the time (or thought he knew) that he was in reality not a man, but a wolf of the Steppes."
January 23rd, 2011 10:43 PM
Food for thought on those rare occasions when I actually miss the signage. It happens and you could be screwed either way.
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January 24th, 2011 07:58 AM
Some states at least have provisions in the law that require secured on site storage for firearms if entering the screened facility. Colorado's is very detailed on the subject. Not banned from the building, just banned past the security checkpoint (which is typically at the entrance).
Having the buildings actually conform to the law however...
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January 24th, 2011 09:30 AM
Responsability is a responsable decision made.
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January 24th, 2011 09:41 AM
If it is private property and they don't want guns inside, I wouldn't challenge that, good decision.
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January 24th, 2011 11:40 PM
Nice job on your decision and I think your son asked the right question. Having been involved in the mental health field it is important to never take any weapon into a mental health facility. To many things can go wrong. I can assure you!
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January 24th, 2011 11:44 PM
Good thinking on your part...
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