Emergency RFI: Carry, concealment and reciprocity laws of MS

Emergency RFI: Carry, concealment and reciprocity laws of MS

This is a discussion on Emergency RFI: Carry, concealment and reciprocity laws of MS within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I just got off the phone with my mother...Her youngest and favorite brother suffered a heart attack and is brain dead. They are goign to ...

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    Emergency RFI: Carry, concealment and reciprocity laws of MS

    I just got off the phone with my mother...Her youngest and favorite brother suffered a heart attack and is brain dead.

    They are goign to have a funeral next Tues. and she is flying in on Sat.
    My sister is going to stay at her house to care for my sick dad and I am gong to try to fly down to MS (Mobile airport?) Sat. to meet my mom and offer her support. She's notably very upset.

    I have very little time right this moment as I need to make phone calls to other family members but if you guys could help me with some real and dependable information on the legality of carry there I would be very much appreciative.

    Specifically I currently have valid carry licenses in MA-Resident (reciprocates with no one), CT, FL and PA.
    My VA resident permit expired and I haven't renewed it yet.

    I would like to travel from CT (Hartford Intl.) to get to MS bringing with me my normal EDC gear.

    * 1911 with three magazines 10 rd. capacity
    * 28 rounds of hollowpoint ammunition
    * 2 cans of OC/CS marked as "Law Enforcement"...Not just pepper spray but OC and CS as a 1% per unit mix
    * One KaBar 'TDI' knife

    I do not know the first thing about MS state laws toward defense or that of carry if even allowed.
    I'm goign to need any and all legal data aka 'hard facts' on same including where and when I can carry as well as if carry is dis-allowed at certain locations; Restaurants, hospitals, meeting places, peoples homes, places that sell alcoholic beverages (i.e. Appplebees) etc.

    Basically anything that a person who strongly desires to be _LAWFUL_ would need to know including also right to defend ones self in use of force, etc.

    The place where I am going ultimately is a very high crime zone well known historically for poverty since before the Depression.
    Gautier, MS....Maybe a mile from the Gulf Coast.

    Last time I was there was for my grandmothers funeral back in '81; I was 11 or 12.
    I got jumped the first day by a group of neighborhood kids as I'd crossed the Gulf Coast highway to go to the pop store. They spotted me out front, took me for being a sucka seeing I was not from around there and next thing I know they were on me like lice.

    I survived the encounter thanks to picking up a big rock in hand and smashing some kids face with it.
    The store owner told me I better beat it before the cops came...Being from DC I knew about cops so I ran like hell all the way back to my grandfathers place bleeding and didn't leave his property for the rest of the week I was there.

    So here I am in a pinch asking for an assist.
    Links to support data would be GREAT.
    Yes I will check the NRA-ILA site too as that is my normal default...But feedback from actual current in state residents would be grand.

    Thank you ahead of time.

    - Janq
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    Can't help you on your questions, but deepest sympathies for you and your family. It's never easy under any circumstances.
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    Sorry for the family loss.

    It appears MS will honor your FL permit. According to Handgunlaws.us they DO honor non-resicent permits.

    Heres whats posted about not legal to carry locations. Might wat to pay particular attention to bold items.

    Places Off-Limits Even With A Permit/License
    SEC. 45-9-101
     Any police, sheriff or highway patrol station: any detention facility, prison or jail.
     Any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section shall preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his courtroom;
     Any polling place; any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof.
     Any public park unless for the purpose of participating in any authorized firearms-related activity;
     Any school, college or professional athletic event not related to firearms;
    Any portion of an establishment, licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, that is primarily devoted to dispensing alcoholic beverages; any portion of an establishment in which beer or light wine is consumed on the premises, that is primarily devoted to such purpose;
     Any elementary or secondary school facility; any junior college, community college, college or university facility unless for the purpose of participating in any authorized firearms-related activity;
     Inside the passenger terminal of any airport, except that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal if the firearm is encased for shipment ,for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft;
     Any church or other place of worship;
     Or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.
     In addition to the places enumerated in this subsection, the carrying of a concealed pistol or revolver may be disallowed in anyplace in the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over the physical location of such place by the placing of a written notice clearly readable at a distance of not less than ten (10) feet that the "carrying of a pistol or revolver is prohibited."
     No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize the participants in a parade or demonstration for which a permit is required to carry a concealed pistol or revolver
    Have a safe trip. You and family will be in my prayers.

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    As said above, I'm sorry for your loss, and my sympathies to your family.
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    Be advised that MS views your vehicle the same as your home and you can carry in vehicle, even without a permit. Pretty much standard carry laws. Do not have to notify. You can not carry in bars. Can carry in resturant that serve adult beverages. Can not carry in the church. Looking like July some of the restrictions will be lifted. Near as I can figure out you can carry in the casinos. No civil suit for justified shooting. You are presumed in fear of your life, do not have to retreat.
    My prayers go out to your family.
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    I find no mention of chemical agents in the weapons section of the code I have read.
    The knife could be a problem. From what I read Mississippi issues carry permits for pistols, revolvers, and stun guns. No mention of knives in that section.(45-9-101)
    In crimes they have the usual "bowie knife, dirk knife, switchblade" as being on the laundry list of stuff you can't carry concealed "in whole or in part". (97-37-1)
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    Very sorry for your loss Janq. My deepest condolences go out for you and your family members. Will be praying for you to have a safe and uneventful trip, all things considered.

    I have no info on weapons laws for MS so I'll let others report on that issue. Stay safe buddy!
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    my condolences, i hope you have a safe trip.

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    From a fast search, multiple sites indicate no MS laws prohibiting self-defense sprays. Everyone suggests checking local laws but looks like you are legal with OC-CS. Sorry about the family's loss. Stay safe, may you all find peace.

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    sorry for your loss, will pray for you and your family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcp1810 View Post
    In crimes they have the usual "bowie knife, dirk knife, switchblade" as being on the laundry list of stuff you can't carry concealed "in whole or in part". (97-37-1)
    My condolences to the family
    As near as I can tell that's the only limit on knives at state level:
    http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/ms.txt

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    There is a limitation on carrying your OC spray on the plane.

    Self Defense Sprays - One 4 ounce (118ml) container of mace or pepper spray is permitted in checked baggage provided it is equipped with a safety mechanism to prevent accidental discharge. Self Defense Sprays containing more than 2% by mass of Tear Gas (CS or CN) are prohibited in Checked Baggage.
    Condolences to you and yours. Stay safe.

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    Jang,
    Sorry to hear about your family's loss. Hope you have a safe and uneventful trip.
    We await your safe return.
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    I am not familiar with MS laws but my condolences for your loss.
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    Janq, sorry for the loss in the family.

    Here is a link to the MS statutes for homicide, justifiable homicide, and homicide, excuseable homicide.

    http://www.mscode.com/free/statutes/97/003/0015.htm

    http://www.mscode.com/free/statutes/97/003/0017.htm

    Here is a link to the statutes for MS carry.

    http://www.mscode.com/free/statutes/45/009/0101.htm

    Places off limits from the statute:

    (13) No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed pistol or revolver into any place of nuisance as defined in Section 95-3-1, Mississippi Code of 1972; any police, sheriff or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section shall preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his courtroom; any polling place; any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any public park unless for the purpose of participating in any authorized firearms-related activity; any school, college or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any portion of an establishment, licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, that is primarily devoted to dispensing alcoholic beverages; any portion of an establishment in which beer or light wine is consumed on the premises, that is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any junior college, community college, college or university facility unless for the purpose of participating in any authorized firearms-related activity; inside the passenger terminal of any airport, except that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal if the firearm is encased for shipment, for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; any church or other place of worship; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. In addition to the places enumerated in this subsection, the carrying of a concealed pistol or revolver may be disallowed in any place in the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over the physical location of such place by the placing of a written notice clearly readable at a distance of not less than ten (10) feet that the "carrying of a pistol or revolver is prohibited." No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize the participants in a parade or demonstration for which a permit is required to carry a concealed pistol or revolver.
    I haven't found anything yet specifically stating spray legality.
    Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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