SAO Cocked and safetied? or not cocked safety off?

SAO Cocked and safetied? or not cocked safety off?

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    SAO Cocked and safetied? or not cocked safety off?

    Do you keep it racked with a manual safety or no safety and would you cock on the draw?


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    cocked with safety on. That's what the gun was designed for.

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    Absolutely. Lowering the hammer over a loaded chamber is just inviting an ND.

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    Cocked and locked, the way they are designed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    Absolutely. Lowering the hammer over a loaded chamber is just inviting an ND.

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    Concur. Not only is a ND highly possible during lowering the hammer, the mechanics of doing so is awful. Your thumb is nicely aligned to get mangled by the slide during the ND as well.
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    The only way to "cock on the draw" would mean that you manually lowered the hammer ON A LIVE ROUND. Thats a big no-no IMO and its a ND waiting to happen.

    if its a DA/SA weapon, use the decocker. The first shot should be double action (I've never understood people that buy a DA/SA gun and then manually thumb cock the weapon before firing. If you want an SAO semi, buy a 1911 or BHP).

    The only weapon that should be "cocked on the draw" would be a Single-Action revolver.

    Cocked and Locked is perfectly safe in any properly functioning weapon for which it was designed.

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    Always cocked and locket (one in the chamber and safety on).


    Quote Originally Posted by msc8127 View Post
    cocked with safety on. That's what the gun was designed for.
    I am not sure if you are referring the 1911 or not, but the 1911 was not designed to be carried cocked and locked. When John Moses Browning designed the 1911 it did not have manual safety.
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    Cocked and locked...............trouble doesn't make an appointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeyeLCPL View Post
    Cocked and locked, the way they are designed.
    Yes. You should read the instruction manual on how the gun was designed to be carried. What is the make and model?
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    I carry cocked and locked kimber ultra carry. Was just talking to someone at the range who carries his sao without a round in the chamber because he doesnt want "to have to mess with a safety". I told him I thought that was pretty off.

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    I wasn't referring to any gun in particular. I was just going on the options given in the original post.

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    Always cocked and locket (one in the chamber and safety on).




    I am not sure if you are referring the 1911 or not, but the 1911 was not designed to be carried cocked and locked. When John Moses Browning designed the 1911 it did not have manual safety.

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    Condition 1 is the only way to carry a pistol like that.
    If I thought any incident I might be in would go down like it does on TV maybe I would feel different....



    NAH, I would still carry my 1911 cocked and locked


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    I'll play the other side here. I grew up shooting and carrying DA revolvers. So naturally I don't care much for a manual safety on a semi-auto. When I carry a 1911 I carry it cocked and locked, a quick swipe of the thumb turns off the safety and your ready to roll. However when I carry a gun like my CZ p-07 I chamber a round and use the decocker to put it in DA. Still a round in the chamber, still ready to fire just with a DA pull, no safety to switch off etc... I don't see any disadvantage to carrying decocked in DA with a round chambered, maybe for someone who isn't used to DA triggers it might not be good but it works for me.
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    Cool

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    Cocked and locked........

    A few folks prefer to carry with an empty chamber and the hammer down then rack the slide as part of the draw when the weapon is needed putting a round in the chamber but the safety would be off unless placed in the safe posistion after the round has been chambered. Unless you have trained extensively in that method as some do in Israel I would not reccommed it.
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