No carry in Buy For Less

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    Quote Originally Posted by toaster View Post
    No reason to to go back to Buy For Less, except to get the name of that insurance company. They could use and education and and the same treat as BFL.
    This is a good idea, there is no point in complaining to the store, if it's the insurance company that is making the decision. We should all write letters to the insurance company and explain that gun free zones do not stop criminals, but CCW people can.
    We could then explain that we are going to put pressure on all their clients to switch their policies to a more clearly thinking insurance carrier.

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    If this always comes down to 'insurance liability' why isn't (or maybe they are) the NRA lobbying the insurance companies too?

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    The NRA is not lobbying the insurance companies because they really do not impose such a rule-that is a lie told to the public as an excuse that people seem to buy, not that possibly their management is left leaning anti's or just ignorant and overreact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kapnketel View Post
    The NRA is not lobbying the insurance companies because they really do not impose such a rule-that is a lie told to the public as an excuse that people seem to buy, not that possibly their management is left leaning anti's or just ignorant and overreact.
    I don't mean this to sound combative but is there proof that the "insurance" excuse is a lie?
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    Whether or not the insurance thing is real does not matter. The decision was made in regards to $$ and nothing else. Was it the extra $$ for insurance? or the possible $$ for some sort of claim afterward? We may never know. Maybe managers of those corporations are on forums like this (but for managing) and they keep hearing their own urban legends like...
    USing your own bullets will make you lose in a SD shooting, or that if you post that a certain type of intruder/BG needs to be shot online that ALL defense lawyers are good enough to find that 1 post and then hang you for it if you are involved in a shooting. Or about over penetration...
    So they may well be putting policies in place because they received bogus info.

    The only way to get things changed is to 1) YES complain 2) take your $$ elsewhere.

    Unfortunately unless the local manager can PROVE that he is losing a fair amount of business because of the new rules there is no way that upper management will care.
    You would need tens of people every day walking in with one of the cards mentioned above AND the receipt from where ever you just spent the $$ you were going to spend there.

    Here in GA the signs carry no weight so I do not read ANY signs posted that can be seen from the outside.

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    My thoughts are if a store wishes me to enter unarmed, then they should take full responsibility for my safety from the moment I enter their property till the moment I leave.
    And should anything happen then they should be open for a law suit!

    I once read A Story about a lady that sued Taco Bell because she was attacked in her car while waiting in the drive-thru (she was shot) and won! It was ruled that Taco Bell was responsible for the safety of it's patrons while on their property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollo View Post
    I don't mean this to sound combative but is there proof that the "insurance" excuse is a lie?
    x2. I know MY employer has to pay extra just for us to carry our guns for work.

    I wouldn't be shocked if the same has to go for a store letting someone carry their guns into the store while shopping.
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    When a store has a no firearm sign posted thats a store policy NOT a state law . If you carry into a store with a posted sign all they can do is ask you to leave .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuie View Post
    When a store has a no firearm sign posted thats a store policy NOT a state law . If you carry into a store with a posted sign all they can do is ask you to leave .
    Not true. In some states the signs carry legal weight. In others they do not. Before ignoring a no gun sign MAKE SURE TO CHECK YOUR LOCAL LAWS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuie View Post
    When a store has a no firearm sign posted thats a store policy NOT a state law . If you carry into a store with a posted sign all they can do is ask you to leave .
    Unless it's TN, where if it is "properly posted", you can get in trouble.
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    Never noticed one in my local buy for less, but never looked. All they can do in OK is ask me to leave. Its in a bad part of town, and I usually only go there to stop in the bank, as a branch is located inside, and its not far from where I work.

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    what sign? someone must have been standing in front of it. what weapon?

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    In my state, signs do not carry the force of law... except for trespass laws, after you are asked to leave. I carry concealed. No one knows. About the only places I do do not/would not carry are schools, and Post Offices.

    I doubt that insurance rates are higher if you allow carry. In states whithin which carry is legal, people have been carrying concealed for years, unbeknownst to the proprietor or their insurance company.

    Knight rider, your company's insurance rates are higher because the employer allows you to carry AT/FOR work. You are an agent of the company. If you do anything with your weapon while acting as an agent of the company, the company is liable for your actions, and wisely carries insurance to protect themselves from losing everything.

    While the Taco Bell incident may have occured, their liabilty seems to stem from protecting a patron from harm within the property lines of the business. If in a snow state, had they not shoveled the dirve and a patron was injured due to a car skidding (for example) on the ice/snow... the company might be liable had they not cleared the snow and Ice in a timely manner... alowing, as they do in our state, for "reasonableness" (you can't be expected clear every flake as it falls)...
    All that said....
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    Time to go back to the walmart...
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    I'm throwing the BS flag on the insurance excuse. Legally carrying a concealed weapon has nothing to do with the business taking place at Buy for Less. I have a hard time believing a insurance company would impose such a restriction. I'll respect their wishes and will no longer shop at Buy for Less.

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