This is a discussion on National Reciprocity Action Needed within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by press1280 I agree except with one clarification-Heller didn't necessarily say that requiring permits were OK, but I don't think there has ever ...
Ordinary politics aside, we have to have more uniformity, more consistency, and more flexibility to travel with, transport, and even transfer guns across the country. The restriction may be mostly a nuisance and mostly affect small numbers of people, but the gotchya's can carry huge penalties.
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Instead of more rules and regulations to "Control" law abiding citizens it would be BEST to concentrate on punishing those who break existing laws in a way that minimizes repeat criminal activity.
Governmental agencies, federal, state and local. spend way too much time and money attempting to control that which needs no control and way too little time protecting that which needs protection.
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I don't think that this is a knee jerk reaction. We have been slowly and surely "regulated" for the last 100 years and we are guilty of allowing it to happen. If the Feds pass a law and the socialist states like IL, CA, NY, etc. do not follow along then the next step will be some kind of action. The premise sounds good but in reality we should not even have to have permits. The best way to counter this is to keep up the states movement such as AZ, AK, MT, and others that have provided Constitutional carry. It will take some time but it keeps the Feds out of the picture. The government is supposed to be "we the people" not we do unto the people!!
If this bill passed, NJ, CA, CT would immediately become easy. Yes, IL, WI, and DC will remain problematic until they give their own citizens the rights they should have.
D.C. will remain problematic anyway, as the law talks about state's recognizing other's permits---so D.C. of course gets left out.
I admit I'm a little legal ignorant, law school wasn't part of my plan. But my laymen's mind has wondered for some time, why are States not already required to recognize CCW permits based on the Constitutions Full Faith and Credit clause. The same law requires them to accept my drivers license, and contracts etc etc etc.. Why does this not apply to my concealed carry license?
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Doesn't make any sense does it? They accept a granted privilege but not a constitutional right.
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I reject almost everything the federal government does. They spend money they don't have interfering in affairs that they can't be effective in while restricting our rights.
That being said, I'm fully supporting this bill. My girlfriend has family in California. Anyone care to tell me the odds that I'll be able to carry in CA if I wait for reciprocity agreements? As long as nobody amends this bill with some kind of 'standard', I'm good with it. Of course, I harbor no illusions on it passing. It'll pass the House easily, the Senate probably, but the odds of His Excellency Barack Obama signing it are about the same as a reciprocity agreement with California.