Recording police stop may be illegal!

Recording police stop may be illegal!

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    Recording police stop may be illegal!

    A recent thread on Glocktalk.com involved a person who was stopped for open carry in Philthydelphia and recorded his encounter with the police. Sounds like a reasonable precaution to protect your rights in court, doesn't it?

    A discussion on the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network pointed out that some states make this a felony punishable by 5 years in prison.

    What about your state? Do you think that public encounters with law enforcemnt (public employees) should be recordable?? Would you record an encounter with a LEO?

    In some states ALL parties to a conversation must give consent to recording; in others, only one party must give consent.

    For info on your state, check out State Law: Recording | Citizen Media Law Project


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    That is because it is a feudal system. The government can do to you, but you cannot do to it.
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    Thanks for the post.
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    Looks like it is legal in Texas, but I see no reason to do it.
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    Where's Iowa? Well, other than in the middle of fly over country.

    As far as I know in this state a conversation can be recorded if one of the parties knows it's being recorded.
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    If anyone remembers the guy on the motorcycle and the off duty cop that drew on him? The rider got wiretapping charges for posting the helmet cam video. NC is a one party consent state, so none of that nonsense here.
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    Yeh lots of states have wiretapping laws that police departments will take advantage of to keep people from shooting videos and such. Ive also heard where they confiscate phones people record with to "check if its a weapon" and then delete the incriminating videos (which they need a warrant to even look at)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keisukekun View Post
    Yeh lots of states have wiretapping laws that police departments will take advantage of to keep people from shooting videos and such. Ive also heard where they confiscate phones people record with to "check if its a weapon" and then delete the incriminating videos (which they need a warrant to even look at)
    The California Supreme Court recently ruled that an officer can "search" the contents of a cell phone without a warrant. There are a few jurisdictions outside of Ca that are following suit.

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    Funny thing about my cell phone, that one button keeps getting accidentally pushed and it starts recording things. I'm always having to check it and erase things.

    It's not illegal here at all, as long as one person gives permission for it to be recorded, so if you are in the conversation .. obviously you have given permission. I don't think it should be illegal anywhere.
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    I don't understand how a conversation in public with a publically paid individual could have any sort of reasonable expectation of privacy. Those civil rights lawyers need to aggressively go after attempts to apply wiretapping laws to these sorts of clear abuses. There are no wires being "tapped" here. Whether I record some birds at a local public park or a conversation with an officer in public is really no different as far as the law is concerned.
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    Looks like it's legal in Indiana since Indiana is a single party consent state.


    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post
    Looks like it is legal in Texas, but I see no reason to do it.
    Are you serious? You really don't see a reason to do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb2wji View Post
    The California Supreme Court recently ruled that an officer can "search" the contents of a cell phone without a warrant. There are a few jurisdictions outside of Ca that are following suit.
    More liberties out the door T_T

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorBob View Post
    A recent thread on Glocktalk.com involved a person who was stopped for open carry in Philthydelphia and recorded his encounter with the police. Sounds like a reasonable precaution to protect your rights in court, doesn't it?
    A discussion on the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network pointed out that some states make this a felony punishable by 5 years in prison.
    What about your state? Do you think that public encounters with law enforcemnt (public employees) should be recordable?? Would you record an encounter with a LEO?
    In some states ALL parties to a conversation must give consent to recording; in others, only one party must give consent.
    For info on your state, check out State Law: Recording | Citizen Media Law Project
    I call BS - video recording a Govt. Employee on the job interacting with you on a Public street has NO relationship to private conversations , wiretapping, or phones.

    JUST LIKE A CELEBRITY - they have NO EXPECTATION of PRIVACY

    Find me a court ruling anywhere that proves me wrong.
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    It's because state legislators pass laws that make it a felony. Powerful police unions push such laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TN_Mike View Post
    Looks like it's legal in Indiana since Indiana is a single party consent state.


    Are you serious? You really don't see a reason to do it?
    Yep, dead serious. If I have done something to bring police attention to me, what am I going to be recording? Me trying to explain why I was doing X. Seems that I would be stacking the deck for the LEO's if I had to fight it.

    Please explain this. How do folks advocate not saying a word or say they will not give a statement without their lawyer, but then want to record the interaction with the LEO for use later. Hmmm, plead the 5th so you can't incriminate yourself then make a video or audio recording that can be subpoenaed for use against you. I don't see the logic in that.

    Now granted, I might be a bit biased because I have never had a bad LEO experience, even when I was in my teens and early 20's and was full of myself, but don't see that changing any time soon.
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