This is a discussion on Do CCW Permit Holders and Gun Owners have a Right to Privacy?? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; We absolutely have a right to privacy and the people that pass these laws know it. They, being against it, though, don't care about our ...
We absolutely have a right to privacy and the people that pass these laws know it. They, being against it, though, don't care about our rights to bear arms, our right to privacy or any other right we have because we believe differently than they do....
Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.
It's not a problem til they make it one!
I found a photo of this state Attorney General in Illinois, Lisa Madigan, that wants to give the press access to the list of registered gun owners in the state.
I suspect that she may not be a friend to gun owners:
What is looney to me is states that make CCW-holder names available under the guise of "public information," but conceal names of licensed drivers or vehicle owners... and that information seems to be protected like national security secrets.
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Indiana protects our identities by state law
"The value you put on the lost will be determined by the sacrifice you are willing to make to seek them until they are found."
I think the idea goes way back, maybe thousands of years. Even after the Civil War it was fairly common to parade a criminal through the streets so the towns people could throw stones at them. The practice is still common in several undeveloped countries.
Some years ago I lived in Iowa. They had State run liquor stores. A record of who bought what was kept. Names were published in the local news papers. The town drunk of the week could easily be a prominent banker. If it happened to be a school teacher, it would be the talk of the town. Once the state liquor stores were voted out, it was no longer public record and names could no longer be published.
Somehow certain people think guns are evil and owners names should be made public. I don't agree. Some people just can't mind their own business.
Lisa Madigan, she's a real piece of work. She is one homely woman. Always looks angry too.
If it's not illegal it's legal. I see no reason to treat a legal gun owner like a criminal by calling attention to them.
If you understand, things are just as they are... If you do not understand, things are just as they are....
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There is no "Public right to know" ...... period.
Protection of a person's privacy, is just that.
Identity theft is a result of people and companies not recognizing that.
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Chief Justice John Roberts : "I don't see how you can read Heller and not take away from it the notion that the Second Amendment...was extremely important to the framers in their view of what liberty meant."
I dont mean to hijack, but this is related, promise :)
Hate to rain on your parade. But the Oregon Legislature actually has not passed this law yet. There was a bill introduced introduced in 2009 that would have accomplished this but it was "gutted and stuff" at the last moment that made it's passage un-palatable to people who value gun rights.
There are currently two bills - HB 2787 which passed the house with overwhelming support.. But unfortunatly its sister bill SB 582 is stuck in the Senate Judiciary.
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Why don't they publish lists of those convicted of violent felonies? Why legal citizens? Just for the hell of it? Of course not, they wish to put impediments in the way of those engaging in rights the Constitution protects. To me, the Supremes would say: STOP IT!
But who am I after all, just a nobody whose taxes pay these officials' salaries...........
Of course we do. I think the names of license holders should be kept private.
In Arkansas we're protected by state law.A local paper did publish the names a couple of years back and got into a lot of hot water.
I guess I had just heard about it passing the House before. I thought it was a done deal. Seemed at the time that all of the politicians said that it made sense to keep the information private.
Prozanski is a weasel, I already know that. No surprise there.
What on earth could be the reason that the Democratic caucus is against this??
Insanity. I should have realized that things in Salem are getting worse.
Poppy, are you 100% positive the names/addresses can no longer be published in the state of Arkansas??? If memory serves me correctly, they said the names and zip codes could still be published. I am an Arkie, and would like to see it in "Black & White". Don't trust poiticians any more.
I think CHL holders information should remain PRIVATE!
There was a brew-ha-ha a few years ago in OH when the CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER began publishing the names and addresses of permit holders in the surrounding counties.
I wasn't really concerned since I don't live near Cleveland, but I have no idea if the PLAIN DEALER continues this practice.
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I think we all should have a right to privacy, but it's getting to be impossible.
For example, identity theft begins with having a name associated with an address. I shred everything with my name, address, and any personal information on it and have an unpublished home phone number. But I can search for my address on the internet and get the names and ages of both me and my spouse, and my "unpublished" phone number. So all that shredding is really a waste of effort.
Last edited by Anubis; April 9th, 2011 at 10:34 PM.