April 19th, 2011 07:55 PM
Originally Posted by sdprof
Is what it means, than that makes sense.
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April 19th, 2011 10:06 PM
OK... yes... "Marriage between a man and a women"... (was my thinking when I made my original post).
Originally Posted by TheGreatGonzo
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April 19th, 2011 11:40 PM
So who decides how much training is 'enough' for our 'right?' Is it 3 hrs? 8 hrs? What if someone barely passes? What if someone doesnt pass...they are denied their right?
Originally Posted by mastercapt
As I said, there is no difference in crimes/accident rates in states WITH requirements and those with none.
Please see my signature: "Freedom doesnt mean safe, it means free." It's about encouraging people to be responsible for themselves, letting them suffer the consequences if they arent, and rewarding those that are. Not bring us all down to the lowest common denominator.
Fortune favors the bold.
Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free.
The thing about "defense" is that it has practically nothing to do with guns. (As passed on by CCW9MM)
April 20th, 2011 10:36 AM
I figured as much, but that was kind of my point. If another state grants legality to a type of marriage that you vehemently disagree with (not saying you do, just using it as an example), do you want the federal government to be able to tell your state "You are required to recognize this marriage from State X and provide them with all of the same state benefits and protections that you do any other marriage!"?
Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
I believe constitutional carry should be be recognized in every single state as a matter of principle. I don't, however, want the federal government imposing furhter mandates on states. Although the resulting outcome would be nice, I am opposed to the process it would take to get there.
Just my opinion,
April 20th, 2011 11:52 AM
Marriage Licenses = All states recognizes other states licenses
No. Marriage can only be performed on that state's license. (i.e. TN requires TN Marriage license for TN Marriage.) Not all states even recognize each other's marriages (same sex, first cousins and underage are usually suspect.)
Driver's Licenses = All states recognizes other states licenses
No. There was not Federal enactments nor is there a Federal driver's License law. The Driver License Compact (DLC) was signed between 45 states of their own accord, recognizing each others drivers licenses. The other five states recognize the drivers license for a "drive through" or visit but not for an extended stay (period of limitation depends on states.)
CDL (Commercial Driver's License) = Recognized nationwide and tracked nationwide and by all states.
Yes. The Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Act of 1986 did place Federal standards on the state issued CDL. It is still not a Federal CDL but a state CDL must meet the Federal standards.
Vaccination/Health Records: Recognized by all states and universities to ensure public health & safety
These are medical records kept at State level, not a "license" so they are not germane to this issue. The only federal format used for this is the Immunization Record to be carried with your passport outside the U.S. but this is still filled out by your doctor or a state health agency.
So, the only true "precedent" above is the CDL. As this is tied to Interstate Commerce and the Highway Acts, it means it could be "selectively enforced"by numerous government agencies according to their own interpretations of their enforcement authority. If you haven't already noticed, anything tied to "Interstate Commerce" is not protected by the Constitution so far as the U.S. Supreme Court is concerned. Once you state "IC" every government agency out there ( including FBI, Treasury department and BATF) has a free shot at the regulations and how they are to be enforced.
Do you really want an open season on HCP/CWPs? I don't, so I still say: leave it to the states.
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