ccw when place has no gun sign?
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April 14th, 2011 09:32 PM
It's not the destination, it's the journey.
April 14th, 2011 10:36 PM
Since the stupid signs here in Indiana do not hold the weight of law, I ignore them. If they figure out I am carrying and ask me to leave, I will. No big deal.
Originally Posted by mattstephan
Now, when we lived in our home state of Tennessee, where the stupid signs do in fact carry the weight of law, I looked for them. If I saw one, I didn't go in with the gun. But I would leave it in the car so i could go in long enough to explain to the manager why I was deciding not to spend my money there and that I was going to post the info that they were posted on several websites that had thousands of members. I got a business not far from where I worked to take their stupid signs down after they got hundreds of email and calls telling them that they would not eat at this particular sandwhich shop again until the signs came down. Emails went to the corporate HQ for this chain as well.
April 15th, 2011 01:42 AM
I'm also from Texas and this is true. If the sign does not contain specific wording of specific sizes and in contrasting colors then it is not law. I still don't go into companies that have gun grabber signs up. I used to love church's chicken...then I saw the sign they had posted claiming guns weren't even aloud in their parking lot or on the sidewalk in front of their building. The nerve. If the company says no guns, I go to their competitor that doesn't. And if its a place I absolutely have to go, then I leave the gun in my car.
Originally Posted by adclose
April 15th, 2011 03:42 AM
In Florida those No Firearms sign are worthless and most ignore them, but you need to be know and obey Ohio law.
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April 15th, 2011 07:17 AM
Same here. In fact, I go out of my way to seek out the manager and explain to him/her why they are losing sales. A local grocery chain here recently caved and took down their signs because of it.
Originally Posted by Bark'n
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April 15th, 2011 09:15 AM
Same here. Lowe's by me has a no guns sign on one of their doors. I just walk in the other.
Originally Posted by Bark'n
April 15th, 2011 10:25 AM
Here in Nebraska any no gun sign counts, even if it's scribbled in crayon. I lock up my guns for those places in my car in a safe under my seat. But I do my best to avoid spending money in places that don't want a legal responsible gun owner to enter their premises.
April 15th, 2011 10:46 AM
In the fortunately rare cases I run into, I use a Center of Mass safe.
April 15th, 2011 06:29 PM
If the sign is the official sign, as mandated by state law, I pay attention to it. But, if it is a hand-scrawled one or other: no way! They do not hold legal weight.
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April 15th, 2011 06:36 PM
Same in TN, if it's not properly posted, it's not posted.
Originally Posted by Hubs
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April 15th, 2011 11:41 PM
Since I live in Texas, I just laugh and go in. Here in TX they have to have a very specific sign:
Originally Posted by mattstephan
PC §30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY
CONCEALED HANDGUN. (a) A license holder commits an offense if
the license holder:
(1) carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter
411, Government Code, on property of another without effective
(2) received notice that:
(A) entry on the property by a license holder with a concealed
handgun was forbidden; or
(B) remaining on the property with a concealed handgun was
forbidden and failed to depart.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the
owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the
owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication.
(c) In this section:
(1) "Entry" has the meaning assigned by Section 30.05(b).
(2) "License holder" has the meaning assigned by Section
(3) "Written communication" means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written language
identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code
(trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person
licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed
handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed
(B) a sign posted on the property that:
(i) includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both
English and Spanish;
(ii) appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least
one inch in height; and
(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to
(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property
on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased
by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which
the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under
Section 46.03 or 46.035.
Gun buster or No Guns Allowed signs mean absolutely nothing.
If I do find a compliant 30.06 sign, then I return to my car and take my business elsewhere
April 16th, 2011 12:37 AM
Careful friend, the law says that a sign on a store is "constructive notice" that you should have known not to carry inside. Whether you saw it or not is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by Macantic
To the poster I always secure the gun in a gun safe under the seat. I also leave it loaded with one in the chamber.
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April 16th, 2011 05:06 AM
i live in indy, i leave the gun on my hip
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April 24th, 2011 12:41 PM
Welcome. I keep my gun loaded and in a car safe under the seat when I can't carry.
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April 24th, 2011 01:46 PM
The only time I'll take my gun off is when I have to run into the bank or PD, in which case it goes in the center console. In MT, the signs do not hold the weight of law, so if I ever do see them, I'll either go somewhere else or ignore them. If they ask me to leave though, I am required to, so I will.
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