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    Gotta love MO!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattstephan View Post
    when you are carring your pistol to a place that has no gun sign what do you do with your pistol, do you put it under the seat or glove box? do you have to unload it? do u take the holster off to? thanks
    Since the stupid signs here in Indiana do not hold the weight of law, I ignore them. If they figure out I am carrying and ask me to leave, I will. No big deal.

    Now, when we lived in our home state of Tennessee, where the stupid signs do in fact carry the weight of law, I looked for them. If I saw one, I didn't go in with the gun. But I would leave it in the car so i could go in long enough to explain to the manager why I was deciding not to spend my money there and that I was going to post the info that they were posted on several websites that had thousands of members. I got a business not far from where I worked to take their stupid signs down after they got hundreds of email and calls telling them that they would not eat at this particular sandwhich shop again until the signs came down. Emails went to the corporate HQ for this chain as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adclose View Post
    here in TX the laws require a very specific sign that almost no stores actually put up. The simple gun buster sign or "no guns allowed" I pretty much consider that a non sign. The rest of the time I have a small gun safe chained to one of the legs of my truck seat. never take off my holster
    I'm also from Texas and this is true. If the sign does not contain specific wording of specific sizes and in contrasting colors then it is not law. I still don't go into companies that have gun grabber signs up. I used to love church's chicken...then I saw the sign they had posted claiming guns weren't even aloud in their parking lot or on the sidewalk in front of their building. The nerve. If the company says no guns, I go to their competitor that doesn't. And if its a place I absolutely have to go, then I leave the gun in my car.

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    In Florida those No Firearms sign are worthless and most ignore them, but you need to be know and obey Ohio law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Fortunately in Missouri, it isn't a crime if you enter a place which has a sign posted. If I happen to notice a posted place I won't spend my money there. But to be honest, I don't usually look for any signs either.

    If a place doesn't want my money, I'll certainly accommodate them by going elsewhere if I notice their gun buster sign, but if I don't see the sign, I don't sweat it.
    Same here. In fact, I go out of my way to seek out the manager and explain to him/her why they are losing sales. A local grocery chain here recently caved and took down their signs because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Fortunately in Missouri, it isn't a crime if you enter a place which has a sign posted. If I happen to notice a posted place I won't spend my money there. But to be honest, I don't usually look for any signs either.

    If a place doesn't want my money, I'll certainly accommodate them by going elsewhere if I notice their gun buster sign, but if I don't see the sign, I don't sweat it.
    Same here. Lowe's by me has a no guns sign on one of their doors. I just walk in the other.

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    Here in Nebraska any no gun sign counts, even if it's scribbled in crayon. I lock up my guns for those places in my car in a safe under my seat. But I do my best to avoid spending money in places that don't want a legal responsible gun owner to enter their premises.

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    If the sign is the official sign, as mandated by state law, I pay attention to it. But, if it is a hand-scrawled one or other: no way! They do not hold legal weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubs View Post
    If the sign is the official sign, as mandated by state law, I pay attention to it. But, if it is a hand-scrawled one or other: no way! They do not hold legal weight.
    Same in TN, if it's not properly posted, it's not posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattstephan View Post
    when you are carring your pistol to a place that has no gun sign what do you do with your pistol, do you put it under the seat or glove box? do you have to unload it? do u take the holster off to? thanks
    Since I live in Texas, I just laugh and go in. Here in TX they have to have a very specific sign:

    PC 30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY
    CONCEALED HANDGUN. (a) A license holder commits an offense if
    the license holder:
    (1) carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter
    411, Government Code, on property of another without effective
    consent; and
    (2) received notice that:
    (A) entry on the property by a license holder with a concealed
    handgun was forbidden; or
    (B) remaining on the property with a concealed handgun was
    forbidden and failed to depart.
    (b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the
    owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the
    owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication.
    (c) In this section:
    (1) "Entry" has the meaning assigned by Section 30.05(b).
    (2) "License holder" has the meaning assigned by Section
    46.035(f).
    (3) "Written communication" means:
    (A) a card or other document on which is written language
    identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code
    (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person
    licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed
    handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed
    handgun"; or
    (B) a sign posted on the property that:
    (i) includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both
    English and Spanish;
    (ii) appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least
    one inch in height; and
    (iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to
    the public.
    (d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
    (e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property
    on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased
    by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which
    the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under
    Section 46.03 or 46.035.

    Gun buster or No Guns Allowed signs mean absolutely nothing.

    If I do find a compliant 30.06 sign, then I return to my car and take my business elsewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macantic View Post
    What sign? I didn't see any sign.
    Careful friend, the law says that a sign on a store is "constructive notice" that you should have known not to carry inside. Whether you saw it or not is irrelevant.

    To the poster I always secure the gun in a gun safe under the seat. I also leave it loaded with one in the chamber.
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    i live in indy, i leave the gun on my hip
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    Welcome. I keep my gun loaded and in a car safe under the seat when I can't carry.
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    The only time I'll take my gun off is when I have to run into the bank or PD, in which case it goes in the center console. In MT, the signs do not hold the weight of law, so if I ever do see them, I'll either go somewhere else or ignore them. If they ask me to leave though, I am required to, so I will.

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