This is a discussion on What exactly does "must inform officer" mean? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by gruntingfrog GOVERNMENT CODE**CHAPTER 411. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS I think this makes sense, the only official interaction ...
I was actually expecting him to ask for the ID and since he didn't I didn't know when to bring it up.
To possess. If your not in possession of a concealed handgun you have no duty to inform of the permit. It seems pretty simple for a fellow from Texas.
I think it would be good to look at the actual statutes especially if you're living in NC.
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Idaho does not require you inform the officer. I concur with MotorCityGun, turn on the dome lights, keep both hands on the steering wheel and do as instructed.
Thus, by the law itself--if you are carrying, you are required to disclose. The law does NOT state you must disclose regardless if you are NOT carrying. It appears to be a fallacy that because one has a permit in NC, you must advertise your permit status even if you aren't carrying. I'm not buying the "officer safety" line, because if you aren't armed, your permit isn't going to hurt him. VA cops don't seem to have a problem with non-disclosure (VA is not a "duty to inform state").§ 14‑415.11. Permit to carry concealed handgun; scope of permit.
(a) Any person who has a concealed handgun permit may carry a concealed handgun unless otherwise specifically prohibited by law. The person shall carry the permit together with valid identification whenever the person is carrying a concealed handgun, shall disclose to any law enforcement officer that the person holds a valid permit and is carrying a concealed handgun when approached or addressed by the officer, and shall display both the permit and the proper identification upon the request of a law enforcement officer.
So, that said, what's the deal with NC and fallacious duty to inform when you are not carrying?
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MichaelIt shall be unlawful for any person to fail or refuse to identify the fact that the person is in actual possession of a concealed handgun pursuant to the authority of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act when the person first comes into contact with any law enforcement officer of this state or its political subdivisions or a federal law enforcement officer during the course of any arrest, detainment, or routine traffic stop.
In North Carolina your CCW permit number is the same as your DL, the one time I was stopped and unarmed the officer did ask if I was armed after running DL, after informing him I was not there was no further discussion as to CCW.
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Just a thought. What if I do not realize that I am being detained? That I am free to go? I can see a problem if the permit holder and the officer were not on the same page here.It shall be unlawful for any person to fail or refuse to identify the fact that the person is in actual possession of a concealed handgun pursuant to the authority of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act when the person first comes into contact with any law enforcement officer of this state or its political subdivisions or a federal law enforcement officer during the course of any arrest, detainment, or routine traffic stop.
Here is the regs for Louisiana:
The permit shall be retained by the permittee who shall immediately produce it upon the request of any law enforcement officer. Anyone who fails to do so shall be fined not more than one hundred dollars. Additionally, when any peace officer approaches a permittee in an official manner or with an identified purpose, the permittee shall:
1.Notify the officer that he has a weapon on his person;
2.Submit to a pat down;
3.Allow the officer to temporarily disarm him.
FWIW, I called LSP a while back and asked them if it was necessary in any way to advise them about your permit though the permit holder was unarmed. The guy I talked to said no reason if you were unarmed, that it was essentially about "officer safety" issue's.
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The consensus was the cop was out of line, BUT the driver should have just yelled it out while the cop was talking to the hooker. It was capital "W" Weird.
I also find it odd to notify even when not carrying. Perhaps when he runs the license he will get all goosey and draw his gun, etc. That would make it a good reason to notify in any case.