Amtrak should re-think their firearm policy to get in line with LEOSA

Amtrak should re-think their firearm policy to get in line with LEOSA

This is a discussion on Amtrak should re-think their firearm policy to get in line with LEOSA within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I will be taking a train trip to TN in July, checked with AMTRAK PD and was advised that only Active Duty LEO's on official ...

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    Amtrak should re-think their firearm policy to get in line with LEOSA

    I will be taking a train trip to TN in July, checked with AMTRAK PD and was advised that only Active Duty LEO's on official business are allowed to CC on the trains. When I asked about LEOSA, they stated again that only Active Duty LEO's on official business can CC. I wish they would allow LEOSA qualified personnel to CC on their trains. LEOSA was put in place to allow Active/Retired LEO's to CC nationwide to get more qualified personnel armed and available should an emergency situation arise. AMTRAK's firearm policy defeats the entire purpose of LEOSA and I think they should re-think their policy. Especially with what is going on in the world at this moment and the possible aftermath of it.
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    I thought the recent revision of LEOSA addressed this. Or maybe it was recognizing Amtrack as LE. Sorry, end of a long double. I'll repost if I find the information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crabbys44 View Post
    I thought the recent revision of LEOSA addressed this. Or maybe it was recognizing Amtrack as LE. Sorry, end of a long double. I'll repost if I find the information.
    Yes, they changed LEOSA to include AMTRAK PD, as well as Military LEO's. You'd think that if they included AMTRAK PD in LEOSA, that AMTRAK would honor LEOSA which includes both Active/Retired LEO's. That is what I think they should do!
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    You may want to check if carrying on the train is actually illegal. Here in FL only places that it are prohibited by federal or state law (courtrooms, sporting events, etc) are actually illegal. If a business finds out that you are carrying against their wishes they can ask you to leave, the same as if you weren't wearing a shirt, etc. If you refuse they can call the police and give you a trespassing warrant, but I believe that is the extent of it.

    Whatever you decide, I would at least carry a solid knife if permissible by law. If they take it from you so be it. Train and bus stations seem to be breeding grounds for the bottom of the gene pool type.

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    LEOSA does not allow carry on posted private property.

    ETA: I agree Hiram, but I don't anticipate giving them any business any time soon.
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    Don't know why you would take a train from Delaware to Tennessee instead of driving but I'd just carry and keep to myself.
    I just returned from a driving trip from Maine to Maryland, carried a concealed sidearm and had a rifle in the car. I obeyed the traffic laws and didn't attract attention to myself, no problems over 5 days and 1750 miles of travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram25 View Post
    Yes, they changed LEOSA to include AMTRAK PD, as well as Military LEO's.
    Just to clarify Hiram25's post, the LEOSA revision included civilian police officers employed by the Departments of Army/Navy/Air Force. It does not include military personnel serving as MP's, Security Forces, Master-at-Arms, etc.

    Another group of LEOs now covered, but not previously, are Federal Reserve Bank police officers.

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