This is a discussion on Let's watch that trigger finger................................. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by BkCo1 It is a Glock. For field stripping you have to pull the trigger. Maybe he was rushed and nervous and forgot ...
So many people including those who carry as part of their daily routine do not take the time to properly learn the manual of arms for their weapon. Redundency and repetiton are required. They take the concealed course and never really take the time to properly aquent themselves with their weapon after that. My department has had officers ND Glocks because they cleared the round from the chamber and had not taken the magazine out of the weapon so they closed the slide put another round in the chamber, removed the magazine and then pulled the trigger to take the weapon down discharging the chambered round. That is why we now have such an elaberate administrative unload/reload as policy. So many LEO's only have contact with their weapons during annual qualification and do not take the time to get to know their firearm because they have the mentality that is all they need to do. These are the same one's that do not carry off duty because they believe trouble happens to others but not to them.
The Glock is a very simple manual of arms however redundency and repition are still required to learn it so that it becomes second nature. My opinion . My rant.
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From the news article - Quote from the Sheriff's department:
NO. NO. NO. He shot the gun. It didn't just discharge.He removed the semiautomatic handgun from his waistband and while removing the magazine or clearing the round from the chamber, "the firearm discharged, striking him in the leg."
I absolutely hate it when people, especially those who should know better like a Sheriff, use this phrase. It perpetuates the belief in people that are ignorant of guns and how they function that they just "go off" and are dangerous to even be around.
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I stand by my original thought. Either through inexperience or over confidence he was rushing through what should be a careful and considered operation even at the best of times and situations.
Remember the Four Rules! How many did he break? How many do each of us break because we KNOW it isn't loaded. It happens to everyone from time to time. You give yourself a mental slap to the head and endeavor to do better.
This unfortunate fellow got the harder reminder.
If you have never broken your gun or bled on your gun in training, you're doing it wrong!
Train hard, live easy.
One reason I do not load and unload my guns. I load them and they stay that way from then on (unless I go to the range and have to re-load with SD rounds afterwards). They go in the safe loaded, come out loaded, and go into a holster loaded and do not leave the holster unless there is a need (such as changing carry pieces and putting it back in the safe). I figure the less handling the less chances of an ND. Knock on wood, I've never had one and hope to keep it that way. It can happen to anyone and time will tell, but there's no sense in doing things to increase the odds.
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Wow. Expensive and painful lesson. Hope it wasn't too traumatic for the son seeing him shot, bleeding and being ambulanced away.
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Sounds painful, glad everyone is ok tho
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Something to think about, hah?
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Along with watching the trigger finger, lets also keep in mind not pointing loaded pistols at one's own legs. People always seem to forget that part of the equation.
If I am CC'ing a holster that's not easily removable then I'll take a second holster along if I need to disarm. Generally transfer it from, say, the beltslide to the SERPA then secure it in the car. I would not leave a Glock loaded and unholstered. I consider a holster a mandatory piece of safety equipment for my Glock.
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How does a Glock go bang without the trigger being pulled? I've never had anything like that happen with my Glock. Did he some how pull the trigger with his finger while he was unloading?
On topic, he obviously had to pull the trigger for that to happen. Why he would try to unload it, rather than just putting it in the glovebox is beyond me though.