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    The only firearm I have carried that didn't have a round in the chamber was an M-249 SAW, as per my unit's SOP for open bolt weapons.

    My 1911 is carried condition 1, or my j-frame is carried condition one.

    It really has to deal with familiarity with one's weapon system, and is a training issue. As you gain confidence in your weapon and your abilities with it, you will feel more comfortable carrying it in a loaded state (although you must avoid becoming complacent with it, for complacency leads to disastrous consequences).
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    Technically, I carry my P30 in Condition 2 since I have the LEM V2 (DAO) trigger. For those who don't know, Condition 2 is defined as, "A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down." I always carry +1, as well, loaded with 147gr Federal Tactical HST and one or two extra mags. I almost always carry in an IWB Crossbreed SuperTuck holster, and rarely in a Blackhawk! Serpa CQC holster.

    From day one, I've carried with a round in the chamber. That's not to say it didn't take a little getting used to, as it did. The former Army special forces and current Phoenix SWAT / peace officer who taught my CCW class made it clear that carrying any other way was pointless, and if we planned on carrying in anything less than Condition 2, he said we should get pepper spray and a knife instead and forget about the class. He is also a big fan of the adage, "One is none, two is one," and so he carries two guns at all times. He also made it clear that on more than one occasion had he not been carrying his duty Glock 22 with a round chambered, he'd likely be dead... Twice! ...That's all the evidence I need.

    To me carrying without a round in the chamber makes as much sense as leaving your alarm system off, then hoping you have time to set it off if someone breaks in. I mean if you get jumped and you're fiddling with your gun trying to rack it while getting stabbed or beaten to death.... Or if someone shoots you in the arm.... Or if you get tackled.... Or times infinite scenarios where not carrying with a round chambered in an object designed to carry, chamber and discharge said rounds.... There are just way too many variables and scenarios where carrying unchambered will undoubtedly get you killed. Not to mention that getting all dead or seriously wounded, the BG will steal your firearm and then (do whatever he wants with it)...

    Honestly, if you're worried you can't keep your finger off the trigger while your firearm is holstered in a proper holster, (oxymoron), you probably shouldn't be carrying at all. The chances of a modern firearm going off without pulling the trigger are equivalent to getting struck by lightning twice, at the same time.

    Rant over.
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    My revolvers are always chambered; so are my autos for that matter. JMO but, anyone who carries without one chambered really should work to become more comfortable with the idea. It might just save your life one day.
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    I'm carrying this over from an old poll on the same topic. This response wasn't written by me, but rather by "larefugee."


    Quote Originally Posted by larefugee View Post
    * How do you know you will have enough time to chamber a round in an emergency, under stress?
    * You may be compromising the critical element of surprise.
    * Who says you get to have both hands available when you need to draw?
    * You may be setting yourself up for a careless moment someday when you incorrectly assume that no round is chambered.

    Basically you're saying that you do not trust yourself to handle a gun safely. Once you train enough then that fear will go away and hopefully leave a sense of responsibility and vigilance.
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    does not make any sense to carry on an empty chamber, if you draw your gun, that means things went bad, by the time you chamber a round,its over,i would be surprised if you had time to even rack the slide part way...
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    Condition 1...ALWAYS

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    It is safer to have no bullet in the chamber and the magazine separate as well. That eliminates the possibility of an ND or AD due to there not having a round even in the gun! And most bad guys are pretty courteous and will let you load up so the fight is fair!! Therefore you should carry totally unloaded at all times!!!

    Now that I got the twisted humor out of the way, I always carry condition one. Operating a gun is like operating a car. You have to do it consistently to keep your skills up. You will never eliminate the chance of an accident happening but you sure can reduce the possibility by practice and using your best safety, your brain. All of my guns are very safe if I operate them correctly. Part of my challenge is to not grow complacent and to always be safe with my handling of the weapon. When I change weapons, I must be sure that I adjust to a different manual of arms as no two guns (different makes) are exactly alike. Again, that means that I have to be engaged in the thinking game. Don't leave your chances to having to take the time to chamber a round. It could mean your life.
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    The whole point of carrying is to be as ready as possible to defend your life from an immediate threat. To assume you will have time and composure to chamber a round is markedly naïve. This also impedes safety whereby you will invariably forget whether the gun is in the ready position or not.
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    Always chambered.

    IMO, I feel if I was under extreme stress, I would find myself just pulling the trigger and completely forgetting to chamber the round. Something tells me my air bullet won't do the job! As stated modern guns are made safe and to be loaded. How many LEO's would walk around with an unchambered gun? My guess is not many if at all.
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    I have and will always carried with one chambered, but respect those who do not.
    Same here. It isn't a point of religion with me. What's most important is that you are happy and comfortable with the condition of your firearms.

    For those who wish to run unchambered, go to YouTube and search for "Israeli carry." Here's an example.

    If, for whatever reason, you want to carry unchambered, then it's probably a good idea to train for that. The Israeli idea is that you might be attacked and disarmed, and the person who now has your weapon can turn it on you. They pull the trigger and nothing happens. You have two opportunities to survive while your attacker is now fumbling with the gun: run or attack.

    In the videos showing Israelis training, here's another one, you can see that there's no time penalty for this style of carry. None. If you want to make an argument, make it on capacity and firepower.
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    Chambered of coarse .

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    Chambered always! To quote Rooster Cognurn, "well, a unloaded gun ain't much good!"
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    I've always carried with a round in the chamber. If needed I don't want an extra step to remember and perform. I have a variety of different weapons I carry, depending on what I'm doing and what strikes my fancy on a given day. Most days I carry a 1911, others I may carry a DA/SA pistol, or DAO or even a revolver.
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    It doesn't matter which gun it is, one is always in the chamber. Oh yeah, no safeties either.
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    Yep, chambered, no good reason not to.
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