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This is a discussion on Other Side of the Coin within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; +1 to soundwave. In AZ it is required if requested by an LEO. However, in all other cases you are not legaly obligated. Moraly is ...

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    +1 to soundwave. In AZ it is required if requested by an LEO.

    However, in all other cases you are not legaly obligated. Moraly is a question best left to each individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmiked
    +1 to soundwave. In AZ it is required if requested by an LEO.

    Can you provide a link to that statute? I don't think I'm required to do anything- if asked by a LEO or not.

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    http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/...rintformat=yes

    And I heard in in my first CCW class.

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    Thanks for the link. I guess I better help if asked...

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    Did I hear someone mention my name?...

    Seriously, I doubt they would win, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried it.

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    Isn't this what the last Sienfeld episode was all about? So I have a bad heart, athritis in my knees and back, high blood pressure and some AZ LEO who is getting his clock cleaned and arrest me for not coming to his aid? Another state to avoid.

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    lol Rickstir, if he's getting his clocked cleaned and never commands you to help him, you're in the clear. At that point it is a moral obligation rather than a statutory. Plus that it has to be a "reasonable request", given your medical condition I would have to say you would be excused. ;O)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmiked
    +1 to soundwave. In AZ it is required if requested by an LEO.

    However, in all other cases you are not legaly obligated. Moraly is a question best left to each individual.

    I should also mention that when a LEO requests aid, you are legally temporarily "deputized" as a LEO. Arizona is one of the only states that I've seen that actually adds-in specific and unmistakeable language into each law that exempts a person acting under the direction of a LEO to act as a LEO would. Such as taking/firing a gun in a school (think Columbine), in a bar, etc. This kind of language helps when someone tries to pull the lawsuit card because you were helping a LEO.

    I should note that you should not just "volunteer" your services in such a case without the LEO's knowledge. If a LEO doesn't specifically command or request the help, you can offer but ask them if they need help, tell them you are armed (no weapon in hand) and ask them what they want you to do. In AZ this is qualifies as a request.

    Cheers.

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    I should also mention that when a LEO requests aid, you are legally temporarily "deputized" as a LEO. Arizona is one of the only states that I've seen that actually adds-in specific and unmistakeable language into each law that exempts a person acting under the direction of a LEO to act as a LEO would. Such as taking/firing a gun in a school (think Columbine), in a bar, etc. This kind of language helps when someone tries to pull the lawsuit card because you were helping a LEO.
    Actually, Arkansas has many statues that refer to the same.
    There are many exemptions that basically say" under the direction of an LEO".
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