Montana restaurant carry

This is a discussion on Montana restaurant carry within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; So we're vacationing in MT this week, and while my KS CCL is recognized, I would like some verification on what I think I've read ...

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    Montana restaurant carry

    So we're vacationing in MT this week, and while my KS CCL is recognized, I would like some verification on what I think I've read on MT carry laws.

    If I'm reading them correctly, I cannot carry in any restaurant that serves alchohol.

    True?

    Thanks in advance.

    Jim
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    That is true, we are still working on that in the house and senate...thanks to our worthless Gov.
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    To clarify a bit: you cannot carry "concealed" in a resturant that serves alcohol.

    You CAN: (1) carry openly; (2) put your carry weapon in a briefcase, Wal-mart bag, purse, etc.

    Montana law states that a weapon is concealed if it is entirely or partially covered by clothing. Conceivably, in the strictest interpretation that definition could apply to an IWB holster set up that was carried openly.

    I wrote an email (which I have kept) to the state's AG office and asked this very question. The AG's office reply would seem to indicate that they would consider an IWB set-up, exposed as "open carry" (which again, IS legal in resturants that serve alcohol, and in banks). Also, since a briefcase or purse, or bag would not be considered "clothing", you could carry into resturants that serve by putting your EDC in a briefcase.

    Hope this helps..........
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    Also, depending on WHERE you are in Montana, open carry in resturants may or may not cause a stir. In Missoula, Bozeman or Billings, your open carry may cause a moderate to mild stir. (probably it would NOT result in MWG call to LEO). In most of the more rural and smaller communities, most folks wouldn't give you a second glance.
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    stewart, that means break out the tactical fanny pack or man purse
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    man purse
    that's an oxymoron............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott View Post
    Also, depending on WHERE you are in Montana, open carry in resturants may or may not cause a stir. In Missoula, Bozeman or Billings, your open carry may cause a moderate to mild stir. (probably it would NOT result in MWG call to LEO). In most of the more rural and smaller communities, most folks wouldn't give you a second glance.
    Since I'm not yet comfortable with open carry in my home state, I think I'll pass on trying it for the first time, out of state. Albeit, MT would probably be the one to try, not KS.

    However, we are in Bozeman at the moment, and I would agree, that this might be one of the least friendly cities to that. (Used to live in MT years ago, so still have some perceptions left over).

    Thanks for the feedback, and good luck getting that changed.

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    I've personally never had any trouble in Bozeman.

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    Do the " Virgina tuck ". Then cover back up as you leave.
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    Virginia tuck=short tucked behind your weapon to expose it to common observation. VA residents used to have to do this because old VA law only allowed OC in a restaurant that served alcohol. The law was changed last July to include CC. Crazy thing is the law still allows alcohol consumption while OC, but not CC. Go figure

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    Thanks all.
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    You think Bozeman is the worst? Try Missoula. Lived there for 17 years. While there are a few old boys there, to really fit in you need a grunge band beard, dreadlocks, a hemp necklace, a hybrid car, higher "education", wealth, and your liberalism must be beyond the extreme. I always referred to it as "Berkeley in the Rockies." What a cesspool of Socialism. Too bad. Spectacular country, and the guys I ran with (precious few of those types) were the best of the best. I will be there myself for a visit in a couple of days, although we are from Hamilton.

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