Help me please! Decisions decisions
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June 20th, 2011 09:51 PM
Help me please! Decisions decisions
So I'm new to the ccw world. I need some help deciding on a gun. Now, I have done alot of research, and read alot of articles about various firearms etc. A bit about myself. Im 6'3, 200 pounds, and wear your typical "cowboy" attire, fitted jeans, tshirts, untucked button up shirts, and boots. I've thought about just carrying the glock 26 IWB, but realized id have to buy a whole new wardrobe of wranglers. I was pretty well set on a LCR for IWB, but the owner of the local gun shop showed me the Sig p238, which is a sweet looking gun. However, I've heard mixed thing about the 380acp for protection. Any help? I want something with some power, that I can IWB carry that wont require my jeans to be bigger. I've looked at the crossbread supertuck as my holster, now I just have to figure out which firearm to go with!
June 20th, 2011 10:06 PM
you say your a cowboy, get you a good commander sized 1911, nice and thin, .45 acp round, 8 round capacity which is three more than the LCR, 9 rounds with a loaded chamber, nice and thin, easy to conceal, and fun to shoot. thats what i would pick in your situation
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June 20th, 2011 10:13 PM
I'm with Chris
but IWB generally calls for 1" larger in the waist and belt.
its sort of one of them things thats hard to argue around
1911 with a 30 to 35 degree cant at 3:30 fit me fine when at 32x 32, 6'1" 185lbs
check out post #24 Am I the only person in the world that has this problem with Kydex holsters? (pics)
this is most interesting and may be what you are looking for.
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June 20th, 2011 10:20 PM
I have some of the same problems and I went through different gun and two boxes of holsters.
Now I carry a Kel Tec P3AT with CT laser for low light and inside building etc. right front pocket in a Uncle Mikes #1 pocket holster modified to also carry my spare mag.
Am trying to work in a G36 45acp Glock IWB carry.
Wish you good results, but it has been my experience that finding the right carry and holster is not easy.
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June 20th, 2011 10:37 PM
Before you decide, try to shoot as many different types of guns as possible. Be aware that CCW requires adjustments in your dress. You should shoot a pistol in the largest caliber that you carry and shoot accurately and conceal adequately. Look for something with a reputation for reliability. When you go to the range, ask people about the guns they are using. People are generally friendly. I have been invited to shoot lots of guns at the range, and I have invited others to shoot mine as well.
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June 20th, 2011 10:43 PM
Trial and error. I started of with bigger and badder but ended up with smaller and more concealable.
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June 20th, 2011 11:28 PM
I also wear tighter jeans (levis) an boots but I carry a smith and wesson m&p .45 in a cbst. I also have a kel tec pf9 with ct grips that I absolutely love for carrying on relaxed pant days. Lol. I think you will find that a bigger gun hides better than you think. Just remember that your going to see it way more than anyone else. Also a little side note, the .380 is fine for carry in MY PERSONAL opinion. I Know someone personally who shot a intruder with one and geuss what, it worked. If you have something that looks like a gun and goes BANG like one, I promise they will be reconsidering there choices.
June 20th, 2011 11:29 PM
From your post, it seems that appearances are not unimportant to you. For a guy who's six-three and two bills, most of the .380 launchers like the P238 are going to look pretty puny on you.
Clint Smith (of Thunder Ranch) has a standard quote- "carrying a gun should be comforting, not comfortable." I'd steer you toward a compact 9mm, several of which are just a tad bigger then the .380s you've been considering. The LCP and P238 can be comfortably carried in as pocket (in a pocket holster), but something like a Kahr P9/CW9 or Walther PPS offers a more significant punch (9mm vs. .380) and possibly a round or two more.
Getting used to carrying a significant defensive handgun may take a little getting used to. Slender guns like the Kahr and Walther fit pretty easily in an IWB holster, but the Glocks, XDs and M&Ps are pretty chunky and IWB may not be comfortable for you with those guns.
Whichever direction you head, be aware that you need to dress around your weapon if you have made the serious decision to be armed. There will be some wardrobe accommodation necessary.
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June 20th, 2011 11:38 PM
Go size the Springfield Armoury XD subcompact. It comes in 9mm and 40 cal. It fit my hand better than the glock 26/27.
June 20th, 2011 11:41 PM
I picked the SA XD40 SC, love this gun.
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June 20th, 2011 11:46 PM
Just get a desert eagle gold plated and forget about it. But make SURE it has pearl grips and pimp that biachhh!!!
June 21st, 2011 01:05 AM
Another vote for the 1911. Nice and thin. Plus it's a classic, and you can't beat the classics, right?
June 21st, 2011 02:30 AM
I didn't know there were any cowboy's in Greensboro, you must be a transplant from farther west. Damn, what do you wrangle down there, do they even grow cows in NC? HAHA! Just kidding, but for a cowboy a 1911 would look pretty bad ass with wranglers, boots, and a big belt buckle. With tight jeans like those I don't think you will want to carry anything IWB. Maybe reconsider and use a holster meant to be worn in-between a belt and the pants or just go OWB all the way since you wear untucked button up shirts.
I just did a review of a OWB holster for a 1911 Government Model in the holster section. It has a radical rake which keeps the bottom of the holster easily hidden by an untucked shirt. I do agree with some of the other posters though a .380 is going to look like a tiny gun with your size. I'm 6'1" and I have no problem concealing full size pistols, I switch between the aforementioned Govt., Sig P229, and XD .40 Service. On days where deep concealment is called for I pocket carry an S&W J frame 442.
Good luck and let us know what you decide.
June 21st, 2011 02:59 AM
I carry a full size 1911 in a Desantis Speed Scabbard covered by an untucked shirt. I have a beautiful Milt Sparks VM2, but IWB is just not that comfortable for me.
Make sure you use a good gun belt.
June 21st, 2011 03:07 AM
Welcome! My main advice is go with something with the reputation of being very very reliable. And then...reliable.
And then practice with it, dry firing, range, drawing, drawing in non-optimal conditions (off-hand, 'injured', etc), finding an outlet like IDPA to practice moving and shooting. In other words...HAVE FUN and learn as you go.
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