Urge your representative to co-sponsor National Reciprocity bill - H.R. 822

Urge your representative to co-sponsor National Reciprocity bill - H.R. 822

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    Urge your representative to co-sponsor National Reciprocity bill - H.R. 822

    PLEASE contact your congressional representative and ask him/her to support H.R. 822

    This NRA link has details on the attempt to require states to allow defensive carry to holders of licenses in other states.

    NRA-ILA :: Urge Your Representative To Cosponsor H.R. 822, The National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act Of 2011

    I'm spending some time this summer in a state that does not allow non-residents to carry under any condition and it is difficult and uncomfortable. it is time for all states to give 'full faith and credit' to the right guaranteed by the 2nd amendment by other states.

    Here is the link for the text of the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011

    Read The Bill: H.R. 822 - GovTrack.us

    It is simple and straight forward and would give those of us licensed to carry rights similar to the LEOSA.

    By folloowing the first link, you can find out if your representative has signed on. If they have, please write them and support their action. If they have not signed on, please write them and encourage them to sign on.


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    This has come up before. At fave value it seems like a great idea. But I'm going to agree with others that have put their two cents in on this concept before. Keep the Feds out of it. If anybody can muck up, distort, damage, or put unnecessary restrictions on CC it's the Feds. Other than the current supreme court I have very little interest in their involvement.
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.

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    Sorry Doc that's a NO GO for me!
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    Like others have said: if .gov controls across the board reciprocity, then pulling that right is a simple Executive Order away. Leave that power in the State's hands and work reciprocity out that way.
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    You would probably have a better chance at pushing for Constitutional carry than involving the Fed. Gov. in anything else. I think you'll find there would be bi-partisan agreement about the failure of the Gov. to efficiently do anything. It truly is a shame that there is so little trust in our Govt. and so many good reasons to feel that way.
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    What the gubermint gives, it can easily take away...I'll stick with individual state rules.
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    The idea behind what you are wanting is sound. Your heart is in the right place but you have to think ahead and outside of the box I don't want the Feds to have that power. They have already proven time and time again that they have their own agenda. I'd rather leave it the hands of my state's elected officials and the voters of my state.
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    The NRA is trongly supportive of HR 822

    What is it that you find so objectionable or dangerous about this bill? Skip the preamble and focus on section 3 if you wish. How is this different from the LEOSA premption?




    112th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. R. 822

    To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a national standard in accordance with which nonresidents of a State may carry concealed firearms in the State.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    February 18, 2011

    Mr. STEARNS (for himself and Mr. SHULER) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

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    A BILL

    To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a national standard in accordance with which nonresidents of a State may carry concealed firearms in the State.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the ‘National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011’.

    SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

    The Congress finds the following:


    (1) The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States protects the fundamental right of an individual to keep and bear arms, including for purposes of individual self-defense.

    (2) The Supreme Court of the United States has recognized this right in the case of District of Columbia v. Heller, and in the case of McDonald v. City of Chicago, has recognized that the right is protected against State infringement by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

    (3) The Congress has the power to pass legislation to protect against infringement of all rights protected under the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

    (4) The right to bear arms includes the right to carry arms for self-defense and the defense of others.

    (5) The Congress has enacted legislation of national scope authorizing the carrying of concealed firearms by qualified active and retired law enforcement officers.

    (6) Forty-eight States provide by statute for the issuance to individuals of permits to carry concealed firearms, or allow the carrying of concealed firearms for lawful purposes without the need for a permit.


    (7) The overwhelming majority of individuals who exercise the right to carry firearms in their own States and other States have proven to be law-abiding, and such carrying has been demonstrated to provide crime prevention or crime resistance benefits for the licensees and for others.

    (8) The Congress finds that preventing the lawful carrying of firearms by individuals who are traveling outside their home State interferes with the constitutional right of interstate travel, and harms interstate commerce.

    (9) Among the purposes of this Act is the protection of the rights, privileges, and immunities guaranteed to a citizen of the United States by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

    (10) The Congress, therefore, should provide for national recognition, in States that issue to their own citizens licenses or permits to carry concealed handguns, of other State permits or licenses to carry concealed handguns.

    SEC. 3. RECIPROCITY FOR THE CARRYING OF CERTAIN CONCEALED FIREARMS.

    (a) In General- Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 926C the following:


    ‘Sec. 926D. Reciprocity for the carrying of certain concealed firearms

    ‘(a) Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision thereof, related to the carrying or transportation of firearms, a person who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, and who is carrying a government-issued photographic identification document and a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm, may carry a concealed handgun (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, in any State, other than the State of residence of the person, that--

    ‘(1) has a statute that allows residents of the State to obtain licenses or permits to carry concealed firearms; or

    ‘(2) does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms by residents of the State for lawful purposes.


    ‘(b) A person carrying a concealed handgun under this section shall be permitted to carry a handgun subject to the same conditions or limitations that apply to residents of the State who have permits issued by the State or are otherwise lawfully allowed to do so by the State.

    ‘(c) In a State that allows the issuing authority for licenses or permits to carry concealed firearms to impose restrictions on the carrying of firearms by individual holders of such licenses or permits, a firearm shall be carried according to the same terms authorized by an unrestricted license or permit issued to a resident of the State.CommentsPermalink

    ‘(d) Nothing in this section shall be construed to preempt any provision of State law with respect to the issuance of licenses or permits to carry concealed firearms.’.




    (b) Clerical Amendment- The table of sections for such chapter is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 926C the following:

    ‘926D. Reciprocity for the carrying of certain concealed firearms.’.

    (c) Severability- Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, if any provision of this section, or any amendment made by this section, or the application of such provision or amendment to any person or circumstance is held to be unconstitutional, this section and amendments made by this section and the application of such provision or amendment to other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby.


    (d) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall take effect 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.

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    Great bill!!! Love it....Till the next 10 paragraphs are added in committee. Then see if you like it. I'll stick with states rights at least till the Republicans control all 4 houses of government.

    Can see it now. You can carry anywhere any time just have to wear a red target on your shirt visible to all while carrying. Or something equally insane.
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.

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    Keep the FEDS out of it.
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    I'm another in favor of states rights. Keep the feds out! Remember, the supreme court only has a 5-4 majority in favor of firearms for self defense at this time, and there is a good possibilty that we are going to be stuck with the same flaming liberal for 4 more years unless the people wake up! In that time, he may be able to appoint another justice. And that will not be favorable for firearms owners! Keep States Rights!
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    I posted this link on my Facebook for sure. Im so glade my district Rep here in NY is on board for this, and I plan to call up monday to let her know that I am happy for her supporting it, and hope it get pushed ahead.

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    I took the time to check, but lets face it. I live in GA... Tom Price didn't have much choice if he wanted to keep his seat :)

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    I do not understand the negativity on this bill whenever it comes up. As it is now all they are saying is that your legal permit should be honored by the state you travel to as long as you are not in violation of that states laws. The Fed is not telling the states what CCW laws to enforce. Your states rules remain your states rules. The two worst case scenarios: One states like NY and NJ which have very few restrictions because they have very few permits would add restrictions. Two those not willing to school themselves in each state they travel to would in time kill it for all of us eventually.

    Finally to those who think Obama would sign this email me. I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you cheap.
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