CC saved me and my wife yesterday
This is a discussion on CC saved me and my wife yesterday within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Man I am glad y'all are okay besides the bite to your calf. Another reason to always be armed. Thanks for posting....
June 26th, 2011 12:57 PM
Man I am glad y'all are okay besides the bite to your calf. Another reason to always be armed. Thanks for posting.
"He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." - Leonardo da Vinci
June 26th, 2011 01:04 PM
Since you live in VA...I need to tell you that in VA, the law is--the dog gets ONE FREE bite. Yes--as silly as it sounds, it is true. My son was bit by our neighbors German Shepherd--nearly tore off his ear and found puncture marks on his head. This was witnessed by other kids--who stated that my son did not do anything to provoke the attack.
We contacted animal control who did a cursory "investigation" at best--only interviewed the dog's owner, not my child, nor did they take pictures (we did, fortunately--MANY pictures).
Since we are under TRICARE, they are not a "first-payer"--and went after the neighbors home owner's insurance. On top of that, we were encouraged to seek outside counsel. Our attorney explained the law in VA--because we wanted the animal destroyed.
Did this happen on the dog owner's property? or on the road/off the owner's property?
Need to get this bite documented in case there is a second bite--and someone else (like a child) who can't defend themselves is attacked. For all you may know, you are the second victim. Also need to make sure the dog is up to date on it's shots. DO NOT trust the dog owner, as he/she has something to lose.
Finally, next time--shoot the dog dead. I am also a dog owner--and would put my dog down if he did this.
Take lots of pictures of the wounds...you make think "I don't want to make a big deal out of this"--you say that now...but you might change your mind. Take the pics now; what does it hurt?
OBTW--we did reach a settlement in our favor, and my son has money in a trust to be used should he desire to seek plastic surgery to remove the scars on the side of his head (he now keeps his hair long to cover the scars). Unfortunately, the dog still lives.
ETA: Link to my OP: Neighbor's Dangerous Dog
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June 26th, 2011 01:18 PM
YOU NEED TO REPORT THIS TO THE POLICE!
Originally Posted by purwater
Someone else , even a child , could be seriously injured by this animal.
Here's a link to Virginia Law on dogs................
Virginia Consolidated Dog Laws
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June 26th, 2011 01:50 PM
I ride a motorcycle and have had 2 agressive dogs charging me every time I ride past their house,large fenced yard with vehicle gate open,they keep getting closer and are charging into the roadway now,Next time I'm slowing down and giving tham a blast of pepper spray,hopefully it won,t disperse too much before they get a lesson,If this doesn't work next step is I'm calling Leo's and filing an aggressive dog report,if the dogs get brazen enough I may have to give one a lead injection,I don't fire warning shots
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June 26th, 2011 02:02 PM
I'd have to agree with reporting it. As for killing it or not, that's your decision. I see nothing wrong with a shot to scare off an animal. I've done it myself, but only because I couldn't get a clear shot on the animal. It's not like they could understand you if you told them to back off or you were going to shoot them. A warning shot to an animal is about the same as a verbal warning to a person.
That being said, I would have shot it when it bit the first time. One of the reasons I carry is because of wild animals. I've had coyotes, wolves, mountain lions, etc within feet of my house.
June 26th, 2011 02:03 PM
velco dog gun for the mordern age is the NAA Companion 22lr or magnum. i stoke mine with bullseye for easy clean up.
would i trust it to stop a dog bigger than an ankle biter--no
to scare one away....perhaps
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June 26th, 2011 02:27 PM
Call the police and make a report...call a lawyer and have the owner pay the medical bills.
Next time, shoot the dog. I hate saying that as i do love canines, but how will you feel when the next victim is a child?
The owner isn't going to be happy anyway, so you might as well have a 'paper trail'.
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June 26th, 2011 02:50 PM
BINGO!!!!! A buddy of mine was sued for a minor dog bite (no visable sign of a bite and they believe the neighbor made it up anyway) and the other side was awarded $10,000. Their home owner's insurance covered it, but still. If you sue, maybe they will take it seriously. Also, I would file a police and animal control complaint. Most places have a leash law and also viscious dog ordinance.
Originally Posted by OldVet
I found out a lot about it when I was attacked by 2 pitbulls in my own yard in NC 18 years ago. I filed a complaint with both the police and animal control...should have filed a civil suit against them.
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June 26th, 2011 02:52 PM
A "paper trail" is important for future reference. That dog bit you once, he will bite you again.
Having seen some horrendous wounds and two deaths caused by pit bulls, I am advocate of killing them on the spot if they even attempt to bite you. Everyone here assumes that they would be able to fight back if a pit locked on to you. A big dog that bites your leg can easily break it. If they whip their heads back and forth, then can take that leg off. With a broken leg and in much pain you will fall to the ground. Once you are on the ground, that dog will try to bite your throat for the kill because that is what they do. Dont think that you have an even chance because unless you have your gun in your hand, you might not even be able to get to it. If you are on the ground with an attacking dog, you are severly outclassed.
Shooting at it and assuming that it will run off is wishful thinking. Yeah, you might get away with it or you might not.
An attack can change your life in seconds. Even if the dog runs off, even if you shoot it and it dies, if you let it bite you it could take years to heal up. I know of one man that has a permanately disabled arm from an attack, that arm just hangs by his side useless because of nerve damage.
As for shooting in city limits, if your life is in danger and you shoot, you wont be fined or ticketed for discharging a weapon, no more than you would be if you had to shoot some gangbanger off of you, so that ought to be the least of your worries.
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June 26th, 2011 03:07 PM
We are dog lovers but no way would I allow a dog to attack me. I carry a hiking stick when I walk along with my EDC. I would have called the police and made a report and let them decide what to do from there. Thankfully you were not one of the neighborhood children.
June 26th, 2011 03:23 PM
I'd have put a 230 gr .45 jhp in that dogs head and called the popo.
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June 26th, 2011 03:46 PM
I honestly can't say exactly what I would have done in your situation. In my opinion, you and your wife are ok so you did ok. I do agree that you should file a report on the incident. If someone else has had a similar incident and filed a report, then (since you didn't kill it) you will be one step closer to getting rid of the problem.
Stop whining and go do something that makes a difference!
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June 26th, 2011 03:51 PM
The brain is checked for rabies, so you only need to take its head to the vet.
Originally Posted by claude clay
June 26th, 2011 04:48 PM
Being its a .45, it would have just bounced off the puppy's head.
Originally Posted by sgb
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June 26th, 2011 04:54 PM
That's interesting. When I was a kid, I knew another boy who was bitten by a neighborhood dog, and I always wonder why the dog wasn't put down.
Originally Posted by SIGguy229
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