July 24th, 2011 05:06 PM
Carrying when part of your trip involves non carry area. Where to stow your weapon??
I have noticed a very frustrating part of carrying, and haven't noticed any discussions on this. (I'm sure there may have been, but I didn't see them -and others may have this question also) Here are 2 scenarios in which this issue could be a real problem:
1. You are out on foot (or on a bicycle) and running several errands for the day away from home and you must enter a place like: (the dreaded Post office) or other off limits place. Where does the gun go to wait until you come back? I don't think most people would trust chaining a backpack to a light pole with your weapon inside, unless (maybe) if it contains a micro vault, but that can be real inconvenient/bulky when on foot. Does the whole day have to be shot because of that ONE stop?
2. You are on a long trip (say cross country) and part of your trip takes you into Canada or Mexico. Where do you store your gun? Some say take it to a gun shop and "have it cleaned" (for an excuse to store it there) Any other ideas? Must we be forced not to carry during the other 90% of the trip?
Last edited by romansten9; July 24th, 2011 at 05:09 PM.
July 24th, 2011 05:15 PM
First off no firearms allowed in Mexico period. So I wouldn't even dream of taking it over the border(even though you would need it down there). Most grocery stores have mail centers so you can buy stamps and stuff, so you can avoid the post office.
July 24th, 2011 05:24 PM
If part of your trip takes you across either the Northern or Southern US boarder I'd STRONGLY suggest leaving any guns home, especially handguns.
I've had some reenactor friends take flintlocks into Canada and back, and it takes some paperwork and preplanning! Mexico will toss you in jail for a stray round of ammo!!
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July 24th, 2011 05:25 PM
I guess it depends on your situation. I don't go to Canada or Mexico and the wife does the bill mailing.
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July 24th, 2011 05:32 PM
USPO as in you need insurance or a signed return receipt requested than it can be answered that concealed means concealed but that is an action which is known to be illegal--despite the many who do it.
to plan the start of your day by doing that unarmed and 1st. it rather requires that you go out of your way but you do stay within the law. perhaps use the car for that quick run?
too risky to 'give it a go' as suppose a baby carriage handle catches on your shirt tail or a 5 year old falls against your waist .
that klunk is gonna be heard. some PO's are spacious but where i am they are small and crowded. and even the parking on postal property is properly posted. its kinda annoying, but we plan around it and we will get by...
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July 24th, 2011 05:42 PM
As to Post Office carry in FL...that question has been previously debated. In our small town PO, I asked the Postmaster about concealed carry...he stated that he wasn't sure about the law and that he didn't care (leading me to believe...he didn't care).
As far as going into Mexico or Canada (and I wouldn't go to either place), one could find a gun shop near the border and stow your firearm there...for a 'cleaning'?
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July 24th, 2011 06:56 PM
No problem in Mexico. While you are there you can ask for a free education, free health care, a housing subsidy, a job where you don't pay taxes, and everyone speak English to you. Wait! I may have this back wards.
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July 24th, 2011 08:24 PM
on post office carrying there is no debate and your local postmaster gave you bad advice and apparently is too lazy to bother with knowing the law, federal codes prohibit carrying a firearm into any postal facility
Originally Posted by retsupt99
July 24th, 2011 08:30 PM
Ditto. I also wouldn't count on said post master to have your back if your'e ever caught in the post office. It's highly likely that he'd go to bat for you and step up to say, "I told him it's okay - no harm, no foul." Even if he did try to get your back, its more probable that his superior will take up the matter and press charges, etc.
Originally Posted by apvbguy
July 24th, 2011 08:36 PM
I'm getting to a point in my life now that I don't really know I would go to a place that wouldn't allow me to carry. If I couldn't carry in Canada or any country for that matter, I'm not sure if I would go...
July 24th, 2011 10:30 PM
IMO...you skip those trips and go at another time.
If you know you're going into Canada or Mexico, don't bring a gun.
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July 24th, 2011 10:56 PM
It all boils down to planning. You can try to justify your actions or you can plan ahead to not need to worry about it.
If you're enough of a law abiding citizen to go through the steps to get a permit be enough of a law abiding citizen to follow the law pertaining to that activity.
It's not always easy but just like driving a car, sometimes the close parking spaces are full so you either park in the fire lane or park out in the far reaches of the lot.
July 25th, 2011 12:05 AM
The last time I went to Puerto Penasco, a general store on the American side of the border had rental lock boxes for firearms. If I ever go back there, I'll consider the lock box. The Canadian Border guards hassled me to no end and seemed disappointed that they didn't find anything. Never carry outside of the country.
July 25th, 2011 01:48 AM
Post office - look for a contract office, often found in drug stores. They are NOT USPS property, so no federal law involved. You can do most every mailing activity there.
Mexico - just be sure you have your ATF creds and you can walk a gun across the border, right?
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July 25th, 2011 09:17 AM
When I drive through Bloomyland (New York City) on a trip from upstate NY to Long Island NY (yeah, same State) I pull over and lock my unloaded pistols in a cabled safe in the trunk. Once I get to the NYC/Long Island border I load and reholster until the return trip.
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