A rant about places you can't carry
On this, and other gun websites, there are frequent posts about:
"My employer forbids guns"
"I can't carry in Joe's restaurant, they are posted..."
" I can't carry on campus"
First, let me just say that the last 3 places I worked at banned guns (and weapons). I was disappointed that I could not carry, even though one place was in a neighborhood where the COPS busted people selling drugs, outside of the building.. We had cameras and security in the parking lot, and vehicle breakins did not happen. I was envolved in security and E.H.&S and had to enforce the rules, aslo. They even banned guns locked in your car, until we showed the management the Florida law which specifically allows this.
Employers: Its their right to ban guns/weapons. When you work for someone, it is leagally implied that you are in a contract and must abide by the rules. Violation could mean discharge. I certainly would not want it on my recird being fired for having a gun on premisis.
Now, we get many posts: " My employer bans guns, what can I do?"
Really-- nothing. Many companies are owned by another controlling corporation somewhere else. (Ours was NY city). Most of these rules are the result of: 1. A past incident. 2. Company insurance company wanting to raise rates unless.... 3. Company attorney(s) think it is a good idea and it will avoid lawsuits after the fact. I am not saying I agree, but that's corporate thinking. They pass rules down, and you have to abide. So, ask yourself: Is it worth loosing your job? And having a bad reference? Or maybe getting arrested? Most responses with the hose posts agree with what I am saying
Same thing with campus carry not allowed. Most colleges are state owned, so its regulated by law.
Nuff said? In Florida they are changing the law to carry concealed (if you have a permit) in "post secondary schools" meaning colleges, both community and 4 year.
Restaurants ( or stores) who post sinage against guns. Here you may do something. Get a petition started with your CWP friends saying you refuse to patronize them while they are posted against guns. Hit them in their bottom line. And don't argue that the sign is not official, it still has teeth in Florida as well as many states. Cause a scene? The cops will be called. wasn't a CWP holder shot somewhere because of an overacting store employee?
Oh, yes. About must inform/non inform. If you treat the officer with respect, and he will treat you the same. They know that someone informing is not the type of person which will use the gun on them. Florida is a non inform state. Most separtments have "armed citizen" training. Most are cool about it, if they know you have it. I will inform. One officer said "we ride 2 to a car. we stop you for something traffic. My partner is on the passenger side watching your hands. You reach for your wallet and he sees a gun near your hand. What do you suppose happens next?"
This is not here to start a war, however, when posting the above questions, think about it first. What you are asking is "should I break the law and/or company rules and carry anyway?"